Scaler 3: User Feedback & Suggestions

Hi @Julian Sure thing. have you seen this DAW MIDI Routing Guide on our Documents page?

Also this tutorial on MIDI Capture and export may help.

Finally there are some very useful features coming in 3.2 which will give us much more flexibility in terms of recording, grouping and routing!

  Thank you !!!     

Add the bar length selector to the main page as well. It makes making the arrangement faster.

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I used Scaler 3.2, and my impression is that it still opens very slowly. Personally, I still prefer Scaler 2.9.

The chord blocks in Scaler 3 can be resized, which I also don’t like. I still prefer that the chord blocks in Scaler 2 remain the same size.

Although Scaler 3 has more features, I think Scaler 2 has clear advantages in many aspects.I have used Scaler 2 far more often than Scaler 3.

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It’s 3:46 am and I still haven’t closed the new Scaler 3.2! Absolutely phenomenal update team! My initial feedback and suggestion is — LFG!!! Hurry up with iPad version and if possible pretty please bring it to iPhone. I have a new iPhone 17 Pro Max dying to host Scaler 3. I’d love to be able to have Scaler 3.2 in my pocket, also a lighter campanion to my MPC and HW synth collection than iPad.

Just wanted to amend my earlier challenges with Scaler 3 with some much deserved flowers :bouquet: to the team for knocking this update out of the park!

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Congrats Davide and team on 3.2! I really feel like the plugin has come a long way. The new tutorial screens were really helpful and I’m grateful to the team for listening to the community.

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Indeed the onscreen tutorial and tool guides are great and easily accessible. Looking forward to developing the muscle memory to eliminate the need for them but in the meantime is really an excellent way to learn.

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Thanks @GuitboxGeek And @KingMidas. That is really great affirmation for us to hear. Really, all we are trying to do is help people make music, so of course we are always listening and always using Scaler 3 in our creative studios at Samplify. It’s this combination of creativity and a dedicated community that allows us to create something special!
I agree, Scaler 3 is now where I hoped it should be in terms of maturity. You could argue it could have been like this at launch, but it would never have been without the community feedback and dedication.
It really is onwards and upwards from here, and we have a solid plan to introduce some functionality and features the community has been asking for. Oh and iOS too!

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Hey guys,

Before asking for feature suggestions, is it possible to get the transport always returns to the start position on stop ? I haven’t found it in the settings.

I feel it not convenient to always click on the rewind button

Cheers

Feature Suggestion:

Playback positions

Would be very nice to have options/settings that allows to,

1. Get the transport bar always returns to the start position on stop (this is the most wanted)

2. Get the transport bar returns to the last start position on stop

3. Been able to start from any created Scene, with shortcuts or arrows (?)

What do you think of that ?

Feature Suggestion:

Manually set the Tempo

It’s a small one but might be nice in standalone to be able to manually set the tempo by double-clicking on it instead of going back to 120, and going back to 120 with Alt+Click (or CTRL+Click) or vice versa

What do you think ?

Nice feedback @Julian We do have a ‘back to start’ dedicated icon. We are looking at ways of jumping between scenes. Keyswitches are a possibility as are a dedicated navigation menu. Also double click to input tempo is on our list!

Hey @davide, sure you have a dedicated button to back to start, and it is needed.

I just feel it not convenient with my workflow, as you have to click the button each time you stop if you want to back to start.

Honestly, I would never start again from the point were I stopped or in the middle of a chord. Most of the time I will start from the last start position or from the begining to listen if the progression I made fits the whole idea.

It’s just the typical behavior as in any DAWs

I have no idea how intricated it would be to implement this into Scaler but that would be so nice if you could consider this one

What’s your thoughts ?

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My thoughts are that you are referring to use in standalone. Because in a DAW I just use the transport controls from the DAW to play from last position play from the start et cetera. I think to achieve what you’re asking for is to allow some form of cc or keyboard assignment to those controls.

I must be really missing the point of Scaler 3. I’ve downloaded 3.2 [a painful experience on my very slow 100k internet connection… man I wish I didn’t have to download all the sounds when all I use is the basic felt piano], and given it a whirl.

I am still really missing the ‘pattern’ selection from Scaler2. I loved having 2 or 3 different patterns that I could alter/mess with in Scaler before dragging them off to Bitwig where I can then use them with the full DAW experience I get with Bitwig.

I know about the Sketch page in Scaler3, but it’s not clear how that helps much. I can have 2 or 3 different progressions there, but then to tweak them (eg. change chords to a sus or a 7th or whatever), I have to move the progression back to the Main Track to then drag the alternate chord from the Circle of Fifths or Colours pages.

It’s been the same with each of the new versions of Scaler 3; I open it up with great optimism thinking it’s going to be better than Scaler2, and every time I just end up frustrated with it. What was nice and easy before is now awkward and time-consuming. Perhaps I just got too used to the old way of working.

My apologies for the whingey post. I rather suspect the simpler interface of old Scaler is what I am just going to end up using for ever now. It’s a shame as this leaves me with a ‘left-behind’ feeling… although Scaler is by no means the only thing I get that feeling with in this increasingly bizarre world.

Keith.

Indeed, I am talking about doing this in the standalone

Would it be possible to have a option in the settings to select the behavior on stop ? Like, Back to start, Back to last start position and stay at last positon ??

The format of the preset or saved state files should IMO be modified. Other people have commented on the huge size of the files, but I don’t think that most of them realize that currently the presets or saved states can be extremely wasteful due to use of blank spaces. For example, SampleTank4 LoFi Piano loaded as instrument, then saved immediately, results in 400 MB size preset or saved state. This saved state had 100,000 lines of structured “code” using spaces to indent followed later by 6,000,000 lines of data using spaces to indent, resulting in 6,301,519 lines containing mostly empty space. This was reduced down to 5 MB with 7Z compression, giving an indication of just how incredibly wasteful the saving of presets or states can be versus optimal size (about 99% wasted space). I just checked version 3.2 build 1029558 - no improvement over previously tested version.

I have posted similarly to this in “Saving Presets & Saving Drive Space,” but feel that this may be a better location so that the problem is noticed.

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Being able to copy and paste chords across the plugin would be nice.

Is there a way to filter chords in the suggest window or circle of fifths pages based on notes they must contain? This seems like such an essential feature that I must be missing something. Very often I have an incomplete chord (1-2 notes) in my head and I want to pick from chords which contain those notes.