Please make changing current scale more straightforward
Also, really miss midi capture
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As a very new (9 months) MIDI user with no formal music training I’m still managing to see much of what’s mentioned throughout this thread along with picking up a few things I hadn’t learned yet. Getting back to the drawing board with my bottle of Excedrin migraine…lol
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hacking music theory & making beats with Scaler 3
For anyone still having workflow issues this is a great video showing Scaler 3 being utilized well; it’s a bit long but worth it. Really helped me understand more of what the Scaler team was going for.
I still use Scaler 2 for quick theory information since it’s a more lightweight, but if I’m starting a song from the ground up, I’m definitely reaching for Scaler 3 9 times out of 10. The team’s communication and timely updates has cemented me being loyal to the Scaler cause. Maybe one day I’ll make my own workflow video.
Thankful for both Scaler 2 and 3. Nothing wrong with using both in my book. My computer sucks or I’d probably just use 3 only 
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I have both Scaler 2 (Windows & IOS) and Scale 3, so basically experienced three learning curves but the journey has been worth it as I am now very comfortable with all three environments.
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I bought Scaler so I could expand on my own ideas and arrangements, or to make arrangements of covers that I wanted to explore. I know my starting chords 99.9% of the time. It kills me that I cannot bring in MIDI (my performances) or audio capture and keep the rhythmic data. Nope…all whole notes… It’s really inconceivable. How are you supposed to work with that? Alternatively, it’s really tedious to enter in chords. Take a lead sheet for a jazz tune and (even if you’re willing to live with whole notes) try to just quickly enter in a bunch of altered chords. Set a timer and see how long it takes before you start cursing. I really hardly use this software anymore.
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I don’t know if you will find the below useful but here goes ;
You can import let’s say a 4-bar MIDI arpeggio into Scaler, capture it, and then assign that captured pattern to a single, 4-bar-long chord in your progression. Scaler will analyze the arpeggio to determine the root chord and the accompanying rhythm and timing information.
This process allows you to record and use your unique performance as a “motion” for any chord you choose.
Work flow
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Capture a 4-bar arpeggio example
Set up Scaler 3: Create a new MIDI track in your DAW containing the arpeggio data and also load an instance of Scaler 3. Route the MIDI output of your arpeggio track to the Scaler 3 track.
Activate Capture MIDI: Go to the Detect tab in Scaler 3 and press the red Capture MIDI button.
Play your arpeggio: Start playback in your DAW so your 4-bar arpeggio is sent to Scaler. Scaler will analyze the MIDI data as it plays.
Create the single chord: Once the arpeggio is captured, Scaler will present the detected chords in Section A. Since this arpeggio is based on a single chord, you should see that chord prominently.
Drag this single chord from Section A into a pattern slot section C.
Adjust chord length: In Section A, make sure the single chord you’ve created has a length of four bars to match your imported arpeggio.
Save as a custom motion:
With the pattern slot selected in Section C, click the Save button and save it as a new user chord set. This saves the timing and rhythm of your arpeggio as a custom pattern, or “motion”.
Now, whenever you use that specific custom chord set, Scaler will apply the 4-bar arpeggio pattern to any chord you place in Section A.
Key takeaway
When you save the pattern, Scaler retains the rhythmic and timing information of your performance. When you apply this saved motion to a chord, Scaler replaces the notes of your arpeggio with the notes of the new chord, preserving your unique playing style.
By repeating this process you explore melodic or rhythmic sequences in any key you like.
You can of course edit any performance you create in the midi editor in S3.
Best Limbic
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I asked my AI (CoPilot) what could be improved in Scaler 3, here is what you see 
- User Interface & Workflow
• Drag-and-drop MIDI files directly into the timeline for smoother workflow.
• Custom themes or a true dark mode to reduce eye strain during long sessions.
• Multilingual interface, e.g. German or French, to make it more accessible globally. - Integration & Compatibility
• Tighter DAW integration, especially with Logic Pro and FL Studio, to reduce setup friction.
• Cloud sync for presets and favorites, allowing seamless work across devices. - Creative Features
• Genre-based chord suggestions, tailored to mood or reference tracks.
• Advanced melody generators that incorporate rhythmic patterns, not just scales.
• AI-powered composition assistant, offering ideas for song structure or transitions. - Performance & Stability
• Some users report crashes in the standalone version—ongoing stability improvements would help.
• Optimization for ARM processors (like Apple M1/M2 chips) to boost performance on newer machines. - Community & Learning Resources
• Built-in tutorials or video guides to help users master features faster.
• Preset sharing platform, similar to Splice or Serum, to foster community creativity.
Lol. Earlier today Google search AI told me that a Novation Launchpad has 16 pads rather than the 64 it really has.
Anyway, I’m looking forwards to sharing my S3 presets with, um, Serum. 
I’m on quite a few forums for music and other things and I’m somewhat bemused by folks that just copy/paste AI replies to stuff they don’t know anything about.
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Haha, yeah, the Launchpad pad count is a classic—AI really missed the mark there 
. Cool that you’re combining Scaler with Serum! And yeah, copy-pasting AI answers without understanding? That just sounds like algorithmic noise, not musicianship.
I had a livestream with my German community regarding update 3.1.2. Some people find it annoying that there is no option to stop Scaler to associate its internal felt piano with every new track we create in the arranger. It is understandable that this is the default when starting with Scaler. But there should be a setting in preferences to stop this. Otherwise it is always the same after creating a new track: (1) switch internal instrument off, (2) assign a midi channel. While (2) can’t be helped, (1) is really a minor thing to change on Scaler and it saves users’ lifetime doing this one boring task over and over again.
Thanks for feedback @kjlietz I’m just worried that allowing people to set a default to ‘No Sound’ will result in lots of tickets asking why there is no sound when starting up!. Simple enough though so I will add to our list to set default sound (none, internal etc).
I’ve said it in another thread but it would be excellent to be able to set an individual default for each motion type, or to set or all of them to “none”. So have a global default which can be overridden by any or all of the motion types.
For example, you might want strings for the main track, bass for bass follow and bass, guitar for strumming, synth for sequences, piano for phrases and performances. It would make it that bit quicker to hear a more complete arrangement rather than 5 or 6 pianos plinking on top of each other (much as I like the Felt Piano I think one is enough for anyone…) You could even have a few quick settings that would set them all in a sensible way: Default, Classic (guitars, pianos, strings) and Electronic (just synths).
All of this would be optional. The global setting would default to Felt Piano and the individual ones would default to “use global” so the default functionality would be exactly as it is now.
Thanks, that’s interesting as a work-around. I’ll try it out.
Yeah, I can see that. This is exactly what I assumed with my community why it isn’t there already. Because of its versatility Scaler is quite a complex tool. Maybe there should be an easy mode for beginners with less obvious options and a pro mode for users who already know their ways in Scaler. 
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The timing window in scaler 2 was a much more immediate option than the dragging in 3. Add chords to current pattern was easier than dragging in scaler 3. Things that simple in scaler 2 are somehow more time consuming in 3. They needed to keep what was easy, easy.
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Hi,
Scaler 3 has overcome the childhood diseases and with the sync option can be exchanged with the V2 at last.
My main suggestion that will elevate the usability of Scaler for Ableton users to 1.000.000% is to make a M4L wrapper that is able to save the state of scaler when saving a project. I took a look at Stepic official wrapped Vst and saw that the M4L wrapper has code that tells Stepic to save it’s a state so it’s probably something that can be done on scaler. I hope that you will consider that seriously. I use a 3rd party free wrapper but it doesn’t save the state. In order to do that you have to know if scaler has the code infrastructure to support that.(I am saying that because my I initial thought was to try and make this device my self).
Anyway thanks for your great work on scaler and I wish you will take a thought on that because it will be great to use M4L with Scaler in order to use it as a midi effect. Probably a Scaler 3 Midi Effect version like Stepic does. 
Hey @omonymos Scaler saves its state with Ableton no problem. No need for a wrapper. Have you downloaded and installed the latest version? Let us know if you are having issues but you should be all good!
Hello everyone,
As a Scaler early user I must say that when I grabed Scaler 3, I was completely lost, and I still am.
I am not complaining, it’s just I thought it was just me who couldn’t get to use it… until today.
May be I haven’t looked in the right place but I feel like there is no easy and explicit tutorials out there of using Scaler 3 whitin a DAW ? Am I right ? Except maybe most videos I saw using Ableton Live… but unfortunatelly I use Cubase and Reaper…
So I know Scaler 3 is powerful and can lead to tremendous results but I am just lost and can get to even use it within my DAWs where I could do it with Scaler 2.
Any suggestion ?
Hey @Julian No doubt it requires some time but it’s worth it. It can do everything Scaler 2 does but can do lots more. The best place to start is the onboard tutorial at launch. Then the Quickstart guide and the manual and also the tutorials on the Scaler Music Youtube channel. Hope that helps!
Hi @davide , yes I am sure it worth it and I would like to be able to use it at its best. I am not so afraid of using the new Scaler functionalities, it’s just that I don’t really find concrete examples on how to use it within Cubase, for instance.
When it came out I got the Producer’s Guide to Scaler 3 course but there is nothing related to DAW uses nor as with the onboard tutorial at launch neither…
That would be very helpful, even more for MIDI capture and exporting MIDI inside your DAW.
The routing inside most used DAWs would be also useful in the user manual. I can’t find any helpful info on there.
Could you point me out any tutorial on how start using and routing it with Cubase or Reaper and how to capture MIDI ?
Thx