I’ve watched the tutorials and have read the manual cover to cover, but am still sketchy about using Scaler 3 in Logic,
I used Scaler Control and opted to record midi under the midi fx drop down menu. It appeared in Logic, but my chords all disappeared from Scaler.
Is there a way to get it back? Have tried using detect, but not sure how you set that up. Tried putting Scaler on a new track, but can’t see a side chain option.
Audio FX on the same channel sort of worked, but am I missing a way to drag midi from Logic back into Scaler?
Not expecting Davide and team to train me in Logic, but it would be SO helpful to have some quick reference pages to cover this stuff.
The tutorials so far (see the detect one) have a habit of skipping over the technical detail.
Just wondered if any Logic users on here had found any resources that explain these sort of things. Happy to jump on YouTube.
Davide, if you’re reading this, I’m not having a moan. I bet you’re absolutely flat out. Happy to be your unskilled test subject if it helps, to ask some stupid questions and to write some Logic Q&As.
Hi @PetefromBridport Welcome to the forum. There are so many ways to use Scaler 3 within Logic and this really relates to how you want to use it and what you are trying to do with it. I would suggest you check over all our tutorial videos and look through the old Scaler 2 videos too as they often feature me writing in Logic and Scaler 2. If you come out of DAW Sync mode and write trigger notes within Logic, Scaler 3 will behave like Scaler 2.
Finally once 3.1 comes out I will make a series of making tracks with Scaler 3 videos and we will have some artists do the same thing so this will help too. Here’s a link to some videos/playlists you may find helpful.
I don’t even bother with exporting midi from Scaler to Logic through drag and drop or such. I just set another channel to receive its input from the track with Scaler through the Logic’s virtual midi interface. You can do the same thing the other way to feed chords into Scaler.
That said, I generally don’t even keep my chords in Scaler even if I build the progression there. I either just have a track that has the chords or add it to Logic’s chord track. That way, I can decide if I want to use Scaler to do the patterns or just use Logic’s arpeggiator. It does some things very well. That way I can just copy the progression to other parts and not have to worry about having song length chord progressions in Scaler.
I do lose out on being able to use the arranger page in Scaler but I have not really worked that into my workflow. I just use scaler to generate stuff on demand and move the midi around in Logic.
Hi Davide, I’m struggling getting Scaler 3 to output MIDI to Logic software instruments, I followed the workflow in your prerelease 7 video (at 2:53). I’m pretty sure I have the routing set correctly (checked this by drawing MIDI data into one track and routing it to another) but there is no MIDI coming out of Scaler 3. Should I delete the app and reinstall?
Hi Richard. Found another video and got it working.
You need Logic 11 with the new midi routing features, but assuming you have that…
Set up a midi track with Scaler control on it plus your chosen software instrument.
Create your tracks in Scaler mixer. On each child track click the three vertical dots and set the midi channel out.
Go to Logic and create software instrument tracks for each Scaler track you’re routing and assign a software instrument.
In Logic select one of these tracks and drop down the track section in the inspector section on the left.
Open the internal midi in options heading, select instrument input and choose the track number that has scaler control on it.
Set the midi in channel to match the midi out channel you chose for your Scaler instrument track in the mixer. Repeat the process for all the Scaler parts.
Then arm the tracks you want to capture the midi, click R and also the I (input monitoring button) next to it.
Press record. The midi will print to your Logic tracks.
Hi Pete, thanks for your advice - that works for me too!
I’m getting some issues with stuck notes, control surface oddities and also, the MIDI is recorded at full velocity, even if humanize velocity is selected in Scaler, but I may be able to resolve this by diving deeper into MIDI controller setup.
In David’s video, it looked like he was using scaler as an instrument, rather than scaler control as a MIDI effect, and I just can’t get this to work for me. I wonder if anyone else has got it working in this configuration - if so, I’d love to know how to do it!
Hi Pete, yes, I’ve had a look at that and I’ve also had a breakthrough using Scaler in an instrument slot…
The target track has to be set to accept MIDI from Scaler, my mistake had been setting the Internal MIDI in on the target track to ‘instrument input’ rather than ‘instrument output’. If you look at the dropdown menu for Internal MIDI in it has both options, which is what was confusing me. In hindsight, it seems obvious now!
It works really well and the stuck notes, etc are now not a problem.
