A 1st gen i7 (to be precise: Core i7 920 OC’d to 3,6GHz, granted: with Win7 Pro/Ult fully patched) and a 10th gen i9 (to be precise: Core i9 10850 OC’d to 5,0GHz, with Win11 23H2 fully patched). The issues are mostly on the i7 to the point of frustration (AERO on, switching between windows takes 3-ish seconds, switching to “EDIT” results in slowdowns of several seconds). The i9 isn’t all roses either.
Which, again, is why I asked if there are specific routines needed.
Launch pricing is now available $29/€29/£29 at PIB for Scaler 2 users whom purchased from Plugin Boutique and want to upgrade to Scaler 3 at that price. MSRP for this upgrade will be $39/€39/£39
Thanks @davide — now that is not confusing at all, since I assumed the upgrade will remain “regular” 29 USD/EUR/GBP. At least this is how I understood the last video – in fact, the newsletter is also kind of worded like that.
Although I did understand that Scaler 3 will be 79 USD/EUR/GBP as “introduction price”. But I didn’t get that impression for the upgrade pricing.
So… when will the Intro pricing for both end?
And once more… the promise to “get PB users an account at ScalerMusic” also still holds true?
BTW, I started making music with a Dell Optiflex 3010 SFF I3-3220 with Windows 7…
And I started with Scaler 2, and never had GUI lags even with that weak IT system
We’re past the point of speculation now, and I’m not about the “it worked for me, something must be wrong on your end” type of game.
Additionally - the i3-3220 was a 3rd gen Intel, which has one essential CPU routine that the 1st gen Intel chipsets didn’t have: AXV (Advanced Vector Extensions). Once more - not comparable. However, if some functions or UI animation are bound to AXV, yet has a fall-back layer so that the plugin still run son CPU ABC… this could explain the excruciating behavior on my i7 rig. In fact, this might also explain why every mouse click in EDIT mode (even with the preview mode turned off) results in several seconds of processing.
But again… speculation doesn’t get us anywhere… here is where the devs should step in.
+1 on the issue of being able to move over to scalermusic.com. haven’t been that happy with plugin boutique lately, i’d really like to have as many of my licenses on the developer’s sites as possible.
Well. Right now we can upgrade to Scaler 3 from version 2. But at Plugin Boutique the cost is around 30.5 USD. I know that 1.5 USD is not the big deal, but why? If in the official announce it’s 29 USD?
For me it’s not 29 USD. It’s 30.5… Any chance to move from Plugin Boutique to Scaler Music and upgrade for the price which was announced? I think it’s more correct for the customers…
Since Ableton Live and Bitwig don’t have chord tracks, midi import that latches to chord tracks is the feature I most want and would be enough for me to upgrade.
But I’d assume there’s no way to integrate MPE into Scaler 3? I’d love to be able to use it to quickly change chord progressions in Live 12 for prerecorded MPE midi without losing the MPE data.
I’ve own scaler scene Ver. 1.
Is there anyway I can get
Ver.3 so that i can start working
with it as my new work flow.
I would like to start working with
it right away. I using studio one 7+
I would like to pick up from a previous post of mine that is yet to be fully answered.
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Now that we know when Scaler 3 will arrive, and what features it will have (not going to lie, I’m not a fan of the “half sub-DAW” feature with loading audio plugins into the engine), we still don’t know if a License Manager (the Beatport Access License Manager debacle) is needed.
This is a make-or-break scenario for me!
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Additional to that - something that actually really irks me with the pre-sales:
The promo videos and promo pages all only mention an upgrade price of 29 USD / EUR / GBP. So far only here on the forum and on PB has there be a mention that the MSRP of the upgrade to v3 is actually 39 USD / EUR / GBP.
PB furthermore lists Scaler 3 with a “List Price” of 59 USD / EUR / GBP. Truth be told, I actually fully expected a MSRP increase for Scaler 3 to go up-to 79 USD / EUR / GBP. However, looking at these prices with a magnifying glass, a 40 EUR (MSRP) upgrade is a rough 33,80% difference (with the 29 USD / EUR / GBP sale it is 50%). And while I remember the commentary on post #67 regarding the “eye gouging in the software industry” (as in: the endless sales to generate a user base, which can be really tiresome indeed), one has to admit, this feels a bit off if basically 95% of the companies out there ask for equal/less than 50% in terms of upgrade fees to the next major version. Including big DAW companies. Sales not counting.
Which brings me to the other thing that keeps gnawing on me - the lack of information when the Introduction Pricing will end. Why the secrecy? Why the “pre-order” FOMO push?
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I can overlook that my (edge case?) technical issues/questions have been ignored so far.
But I would really like to get these pre-sale questions sorted out before I spend any dime prior to 25th March. Other media realms made me very careful regarding the topic “pre-order” (which this is!).
Scaler 3 doesn’t require Beatport Access and Scaler 3 won’t be available under Beatport studio. Naturally that may change in the future.
$29 USD is the upgrade price for existing Scaler 2 users now and at launch (MSRP $39)
$79 USD is the purchase price for Scaler 3 at launch (MSRP $99)
We can’t control what other companies do display or how they display but they are our prices.
When do launch prices end, that is up to our marketing teams.
Finally we can’t answer all questions and posts. We’re focussed on our launch and doing our best. Apologies there and thanks for your patience.
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On the other hand - thank you, @davide – although PB was/still is the main distributor for Scaler (even lists “by Plugin Boutique”). Now you mention even higher prices than previously known. I hope you can understand why this does leave a couple of borderline bad aftertastes.
However, looking at the actual MSRP for Scaler 3… now the upgrade price is way, way more attractive. Still, the marketing team should be more open about all of this (actual pricing, introduction sale deadlines, etc), IMHO.
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Honestly… absolutely not a fan of that that statement.
Not while Beatport Access is a manager that insists on running in the background while your rig must be “always online”. This is one of the worst copy protections out there punishing legit users, and the main reason why I’m not supporting things like formerly Gobbler or currently things like the Roland Cloud. I have enough unnecessary intrusive “license managers” on my rig already - thank you very much!
So I really hope it will not come to this later down the line with a maintenance update !
If you don’t use Beatport Studio to start with you won’t have that problem, whether it comes in or not. I’m assuming you used it and accepted their T&C’s when you took advantage of that deal. Sounds like you’ve not enjoyed it, fair enough - please feel free to feedback to PIB.
We understand that you may not be a fan of this or that or have opinions on how Scaler Music should be marketing - that’s cool. But please do try and be mindful of our resources and other users. Also please be mindful of tone as our community members can interpret responses as aggressive and sarcastic which are considered as insults on this forum.
