RANT about Keys Lock not fit for purpose due to illogical non-linear Scaler output

Scaler 3 General Discussion
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Firstly, sorry for my (annoyed) tone in this video, but this one function is largely all I use scaler for, and it is IMO not fit for purpose… I have also written about this since I bought Scaler 2 last year, and then was on the beta for Scaler 3, I brought it up several times… but never had any explanation or notice that it is being delt with, or being changed etc…

From my position, there seems to be no reason why the potentially EXCELLENT “keys lock” tool which is for non-experts - helping them jam in tune - should be handicapped / ruined by the way Scaler 3 plays higher or lower notes in a non-linear, illogical way.

At present, when you have keys lock on, and you press keys from left to right, the pitch DOES NOT get higher in a linear fashion, as you’d expect. With a piano, as even a novice like myself knows, the notes get higher and higher towards the right and lower and lower towards the left. With Scaler, it gets lower and higher in both directions, ie there is no logic, or not a logic that makes any sense to a beginner, the kind of person who would be using such a POTENTIALLY great feature.

If you are using this tool to jam, you know one thing only, that when you press a note to the right of your current note, you do that because YOU WANT TO HEAR A HIGHER NOTE. So when Scaler forces you to hear a lower note instead, that is very disconcerting and is like throwing a bunch of spanners in the flow, messing up the creative process.

If there is some technical music theory reason why Scaler does this absurd thing, it is misplaced. As I mentioned, this funciton is largely used by people like myself who don’t have the ability to know which notes are going to work in your current chord, all users do know is that left is deeper, right is higher… and that should be that. At very least this logical, linear, piano-like behaviour should be an option.
Watch the video here showing what I mean

PLEASE PEOPLE!!!
@Tristan @davide

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We’ve been here several times with users and we get it. It’s one way or another and sometimes our opinions fall on ‘another’. There are several things we like to do like keep the octave range relevant: degrees on the same note of each octave, degree 1 always starting on a C or not run into silly pitches (C6,C7, C8 for example). We need to bear in mind that often there really are only four workable octaves in which if using Chord Notes you have three notes x 4 available (12 notes) so how would you span it across a keyboard?
Limiting the range and having feels and moods would help here and that is where we are heading.
Finally the new ‘Chord Scales’ mode does exactly what you want, and because we can use all 7 keys of the scale we can span it across the entire keyboard. I think that’s a great solution to do what you want.
Hope that all makes sense and always happy to hear suggestions.

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Hi Davide, Sorry for my bluntness but that seems pedantic and also oblivious of the type of user who would be using this JAMMING function (novices like myself!). Aside from this (IMO) miscalculation of who might use this function, it also does not work logically, as you can see in this video which shows how the octaves jump higher and lower seemingly at random.

“Chord scales” goes part of the way. It disregards (correctly and necessarily IMO) the pitch of the keys you press, ie C key is not a C if you are in some other chord… this makes sense as it’s white keys only. BUT, Chord Scales plays ALL NOTES in a scale, which is cool for a more advanced player, but Chord Notes is more restrictive, which is better for beginners… and beginners don’t give a hoot about the “octaves” if they are jamming… they don’t have the skill to do that, and besides, going UP an octave can often be going DOWN an octave in Scaler… so?

Anyhow, I can’t see it (a “NOVICE JAMMING MODE”) being a difficult thing to implement, a Chord Notes function that increments in a linear fashion! Even if it is only 3 or 4 octaves, no crazy notes needed!

Please have a look at the video

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@davide giving it more thought, a really useful and powerful addition to the NOVICE JAMMING MODE would be one where the user can customise the restriction of notes by being able add 7ths or 4ths etc… so they can bring in more notes outside of the basic chord notes, and STILL have this increment L to R.
After all, people like me know we want something “a bit higher” or “a lot lower” for the next note, and this would be the best way to achieve that… currently it’s not useable as a novice jamming mode.

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another thing
the keys that are sonically an octave apart are not necessarily an octave apart on the physical keyboard… weakening the logic of choosing to make adherence to octaves be of importance.
see here