I watched the tutorial about how to use the detect tool, but it was done in Ableton and I use Logic. I was hoping that someone had possibly created their own video (or could explain it on the forum, with good old-fashioned words) how I need to set up my routing. In short, I create a lot of songs using guitars. I would love for Scaler to “listen” to the guitar track, figure out the key and chords, and then allow me to manipulate it from there. I just can’t figure out how to pipe the audio into Scaler to detect it. I press record in the detect section, and it doesn’t detect anything - because I don’t know what I need to do to run the audio track through.
Thank you, tons, for your help. This is my first time using Scaler, and I was really hoping the manual would be more help. I asked customer service, and they recommended I reach out to the forum. I searched the forum and couldn’t find this questions/answer.
Hi @AlertTheCats@youknowslim, welcome to the forum. Yes it can be tricky to cover all scenarios with the number of different hosts out there, however many of the concepts of audio/MIDI detection in Scaler 3 remain consistent across hosts.
First of all, after selecting Detect MIDI or Detect Audio from the detect menu, you can click the folder icon to import MIDI or audio files, plus drag and drop detection is coming in Scaler 3.1
For realtime MIDI detection in Logic you can use either the Scaler 3 Control MIDI effect plugin or the Scaler 3 instrument plugin on a MIDI / software instrument track containing some MIDI clips.
Select Detect MIDI from the detect menu in Scaler 3 (via the record button at the top)
Press record in the detect menu.
Then press play in Logic from the appropriate point in the timeline. MIDI clips playing on that Logic track should be detected by Scaler in realtime and appear in Section A as detected chords, with detected scales appearing below in section B.
Alternatively you can play/perform MIDI in realtime using a MIDI controller rather than playing existing MIDI clips in Logic.
To detect audio the process is very much the same, however the easiest method is to add the Scaler 3 Audio audio effect plugin to an audio track.
Select Detect Audio from the detect menu.
Press record in the detect menu.
Then play your song in Logic from the appropriate point.
You could also play an instrument such as a guitar through the audio track rather than playing pre recorded audio.
It is also possible to detect audio using the Scaler 3 instrument plugin via the Side Chain menu in the top right of the plugin window. Just select the Logic audio track from this menu which you would like Scaler to listen to and proceed with audio detention as above.
Hope this helps. Let me know if anything here is unclear.
@Tristan, thank you for this detailed explanation. I am interested in the detect audio function, which does not seem to work within FL Studio at the moment as I am getting 100% CPU usage once I hit record which I see will get introduced in the next update. However, when I use the stand-alone application to detected audio it doesn’t seem to pick it up.
Hi @youknowslim OK I assumed you were in Logic Pro as well. Yes there is unfortunately an audio detection bug in the current version of Scaler 3 causing CPU spikes which is particularly prominent on Windows, but not as bad on Mac OS. This will be resolved in the upcoming 1.0.6 update.
Audio detection is possible in the standalone app, just make sure you have your audio input device configured, and disabled audio input mute, which is enabled by default to prevent feedback.
But if you are on Windows you may still be seeing the same CPU issue as when running as a plugin. You can use Windows’ task manager to confirm this, so you may be best to wait until 1.0.6 is released if you’re having trouble. Should be available later this week:
@Tristan, I apologize for not getting to this sooner. Your explanation is EXACTLY what I was hoping to learn. Hopefully your response can help others who are interested in using the feature in Logic. Thanks so much!
Hi Daisy. Not being a Bitwig user myself I can’t offer too much advise here, but the process for routing MIDI for detection in Scaler 3 should be basically the same as in Logic, although Bitwig likely doesn’t support the Scaler 3 Control MIDI effect plugin as it is intended primarily to overcome Logic’s lack of VST support, which is less of an issue these days anyway. You can find more info on this in the following tutorial video about plugin types: https://youtu.be/aMP0lle2yS0?si=mdjuAjqg-kKr1p0h
Scaler 3.1 will include a MIDI routing guide for various DAWs including Bitwig so hopefully that will be useful to you. For the moment it looks like you have another thread active here regarding routing in Bitwig so please post there if you have any specific Bitwig questions. There are also other Bitwig users here in the forum who may be able to provide some insight.
Oh thanks for explaining Scaler 3.1 will include a MIDI routing guide for various DAWs including Bitwig so hopefully that will be useful to me. It does definitely sound useful. I will hang my last hope on that @Tristan ! Thanks! Any idea when 3.1 will come out? Not being rude or rushing you I know you just released a big update etc