Let SCALER follow the chord track of daw

Can I let SCALER follow the chord track of STUDIO ONE directly? Because it is more convenient. Or I can just drag it over.

I can’t record the correct chord rhythm either. I input the chord syncopation rhythm on the chord track. But it won’t work when recorded to SCALER. And I can’t record it on the third page of SCALER3. Therefore, this makes me helpless.
Is there a better way?

I’m not particularly familiar with Studio One or exactly how its chord track works, however I do not believe this is possible. Unless Studio One’s chord track is capable of outputting MIDI notes which can be detected by Scaler. Even then this will only populate Scaler’s Section A with chords which will need to be added to the Main Track, and have their durations adjusted.

But it’s an interesting question so perhaps someone with more Studio One knowledge can comment further.

I’m not sure what you mean here sorry. Is this related to Studio One’s chord track?

I haven’t been able to do it. The reverse works perfectly: Develop the progression in Scaler 3, then drag it over into Studio One. I’m not in front of my Mac right now, but I’m pretty sure you have to drop a Scaler progression onto a Studio One instrument track first, and then you can drag that into Studio One’s chord track.

One thing to be aware of is that Studio One and Scaler have different chord naming conventions when you do this. An EbMaj9/G in Scaler might turn into Bb6sus11 in Studio One.

Hello

Studio one can output MIDI.
I CAN ALSO USE SCALER TO RECORD MIDI OUTPUT FROM STUDIO ONE

However, the rhythm is wrong. It’s just that the duration of each chord is wrong. In Scaler, you also need to adjust it, which is very cumbersome.

I don’t think it’s convenient to enter chords in Scaler.
It’s easier for me to enter chords and chord durations in Studio one or ezkey.

This right here is the only road block with Scaler. You’re talking about not having to make the actual chord progression in scalers main track but to simply trigger notes and record the progression directly to the clip launcher in your daw AND have scaler follow that chord progression so you can make matching basslines use keys lock etc. You can do all this now if you the manually input the chords (On Main track) into scaler but if you have 5 different chords progression changes in one song it can get real messy inside of scaler. Plus it’s a major workflow killer because its way faster to simply play and record the progression live with the duration you want instead of how it is now. Davide said they are doing something later this year called scenes and they are adding a live midi input to each track within scaler which will dramatically increase scalers value. Because then you can work on your song by sections instead of having to make the whole thing on the timeline and have to search for the part of the song you want to add to or edit etc. (Chrous,Bridge etc.) If they’re smart the will add a playlist arranger similar to the one in Studio one 7. Then after you create scenes you can arrange them super fast! One last thing. There is a plugin called arrangerking it shows different shapes to represent a segment of the song. For instance it may show a triangle for the verse and a rectangle for the chorus. This allows you to arrange way faster because your not thinking about it because your using the shapes to guide you. If they could implement this idea into scaler ( just above the main track) that would awesome!

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Then why do you use Scaler?

I am also a Studio One user - and very familiar with the Chord Track but I do not feel any specific need for Scaler to follow it.

Scaler is designed to BE a chord designer - so I do not understand why you would buy a copy if you do not think it is convenient to use it for chord development.

I am sure you can see how this does not make a lot of sense.

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It depends on what you want to do whether it makes sense to have the chords inside scaler on in the DAW. If you are building your entire composition with Scaler, it makes no real difference. You might want to use another tool for arpeggiating such as a built in arpeggiator in the DAW or with another tool such as EZKeys. If you have to enter the progression multiple times to suit each tool, it really is just wasted time repeating the same task and keeping them synced.

Of course the chord tracks in the DAW are there but they are all different implementations. I for instance am using Logic and it’s chord track is fairly close to useless. They have somehow decided that if you enter a chord in inversion, it just goes ahead and removes the inversion you used. Thanks for that. No great loss, the “session player” tracks are not that useful to me anyway.

If you develop the progression elsewhere, if you bring it into Scaler, you lose the timing and just get every chord duration as one measure and then have to readjust.

In an ideal world, they would all be interoperational. It is not really feasible for the development team here to have to rework to support every DAW and VST and their particular implementation,

Personally, I usually just leave the chord in the track and don’t worry about it. If I need to put it into something else, I will but I have to be pretty far along with a piece to bother as any chord changes would have to migrated and readjusted within each environment.

Agree! I love Scaler 3, so much so I can’t remember a lot of Scaler 2. But one thing I do miss about 2 is the Patterns Page, which allowed you to build a multi-section arrangement seamlessly. Sketch isn’t really built for that - it’s more built for testing variant progressions against each other. From what Davide has said, Scenes will bring that functionality.

Yes, I highly anticipate this feature. :heart: I don’t know how this is intended to work, but I believe that this will be the beauty of the unlimited chords (although I don’t think someone will use 200 chords :rofl:) combined with the beauty of patterns.

There’s actually a reasonably easy way to do this in Studio One: After you’ve installed Scaler as an instrument track, highlight the entire chord track (or whatever part you want to use) and drag it onto the Scaler track; then, record that midi data into Scaler. It’s not drag-and-drop and done in real time, but what that’s – a few minutes of time to have the notes and presumably the rhythm in Scaler.