Yes, this is most amazing! Often you can find interesting polyrhythms between mixing the different performances in parallel. For example when you add to mixing play speed 0.5x - 1x - 2x with the other time signatures…
@jamieh in Ableton one way to do it is like this MIDI routing…
Or with a MIDI feedback device (software like LoopBe, or hardware like looping back MIDI cable from out back to in, as I do with my NI Komplete MIDI port)
I do the second method when I use Scaler 2 with the Maschine software which doesn’t make available the MIDI generated by VST plugins.
What is your setup, @ClaudioPorcellana ? Mine seems overly convoluted and uses up two track just for routing. I also understand this to be an Ableton Live (Lite) constraint. With Max4Live and Bitwig, I heard, you can route multiple MIDI generators in-line to the same plugin without using up separate tracks. The DAW environment definitely matters, which is why I am on a quest to accumulate ever DAW under the sun in a soft version of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome
I kept the 1st Scaler with one fixed pattern, I set the speed to 0,5 in the 2nd Scaler, then I tried all patterns one by one in the 2nd Scaler, and I found tons of interesting poly-phonies
I added some text in the picture below hoping it is easier to understand
Oh, I see… you are duplicating the target VST instrument, basically an exact clone of the same instrument, but each fed by its own dedicated Scaler instance. Makes sense now!
Cool! This is working out for a Phillip Glass-type piece I am developing. Always something new to learn. And Ableton Live 11 has many cool things itself. Follow actions for scenes for one and that is great to work with.
Still trying to understand how to implement this lol. I use Studio One 5 - Would I create a layer and place bother scalers on that? Are they triggering at the same time?
I am sorry just having trouble understanding completely.
I don’t know Studio, but I suspect the logic can be the same in any DAW
put 2 identical instruments in 2 tracks
put 2 instances of Scaler in other 2 tracks to drive each of the 2 identical instruments
then set an identical series of chords in Section C for the 2 Scaler
Set the 2 Sections C to play in loop and in sync with your DAW
now hit Play, space bar, or whatever can start the playback
you should hear sounds coming from the 2 instruments
if so, change the patterns in the 2nd Scaler, and possibly change the speed (0,5x - 1x- 2x), until you hear something interesting
AND, in my DAW at least (but I suspect in yours as well) you have to ARM all tracks: i.e. the 2 tracks with Scaler and the 2 tracks with instruments, because the instruments output a sound only if fed by Scaler
Hi @ClaudioPorcellana. What an awesome idea you have…Love it! Thank you for sharing. Do you have any cool audio examples of the happy accidents you have been creating? …or maybe even a cool video of you demonstrating your idea?
The 2 guitars are in different tracks, but the spatial placement is the same, so they sound as one guitar
About a cool video, I usually prefer writing (old style school, quill & ink you know? ) that is faster to me, but I think this workflow is so simple that you don’t need it