I want to start by saying i love Scaler 2. Its helped me create music i could never have done on my own. I was looking forward to Scaler 3 but I just cant get to grips with it at all. not finding it user friendly at all. Finding chords are great but i have a few problems. Firstly, in scaler 2 you could just turn off the instrument you were using in scaler 3 and just effortlessly just use a third party instrument plugin. When you load one in 3, it goes into like a standalone type version and you have to keep flicking back and forth when you want to try a different sound on your instrument. Very frustrating. If i want to change the beats to say, 8, it wont do it. scaler 2, you just pressed a button and it would do it. cant make haead nor tail of how to do it now. Then, with the arrange page you cant put all the seperate sections into your daw, only the main chord progression. Cant see the point in it. Im obviously missing something but there are no tutorials on this at all. Got to be honest, im going back to scaler 2 for a while until there are either fixes or better tutorials because im just not finding it user friendly at all at the moment. Sorry. Gutted.
Here is a link to all the current tutorials for Scaler 3:
My understanding is they will be continuing to add to these over time, and that there is likely to be a full course at some stage, like the brilliant course offered for Scaler 2.
Regarding some of the other challenges you are having, what is your setup?
I’m not at my computer at the moment but will get back to you with some more details soon. I know I haven’t had any issues dragging and dropping any parts into either Logic or Ableton.
Wait huh? Either I don’t understand what you are saying or that ability completely got past me. The way you worded it doesn’t make sense… did you mean scaler 2 the second time? And what do you mean you can just turn off the instrument and use a third party instrument? How?
Sorry, yes i meant scaler 2. You always start with felt piano, but you could press “none” and then simply add an instrument vst as the next plugin in your chain and it would use that. But with scaler 3, it puts it into another window and for instance, if you want to click onto another preset within that instrument vst, the window disapears and you end up flicking back and forth between the two windows. It just gets annoying and isnt flowing.
Thanks for that, i have seen all the vids already so far.
I use Reaper. I did a full song (just messing around when i first used s3), finished it and thought great, ill put them onto seperate tracks by dragging them in, but only had the option to drag the main track with all put together. If there is a way to get them individually then great. I havent had a go since the update so maybe you can now? Also, any idea on the changing the beats/timings problem i have? Seems a very odd thing to make unnecessarily complicated
Scaler 3 does the same thing. You can set it to no instrument, or in the mixer disable felt piano (or mute it) and put a plugin instrument after Scaler 3 in the track chain and it plays the plugin instrument.
“Then, with the arrange page you cant put all the seperate sections into your daw, only the main chord progression.”
What do you mean by put all the separate sections into your DAW?
As Deva said above, you can set each track in the arranger to no instrument, and also assign an individual midi channel to each track - which works great in Logic (not so much in Ableton). Unfortunately I’m not familiar with Reaper’s midi routing but I would imagine this should give you the flexibility to do most things.
Not sure what you mean about “it goes into like a standalone type version and you have to keep flicking back and forth when you want to try a different sound on your instrument” - I can have both Scaler 3 and an instrument open and easily try different patches on the instrument.
It is also easy to drag any track into the DAW, as well as to select how long each chord should play for - in the following diagram I have dragged the bass track into the DAW (and muted it in Scaler) and am showing the chord length drop down menu:
Hopefully others with more knowledge of Reaper can help point you in the right direction regarding specific Reaper workflows. I understand that Scaler 3.1, due in the next few weeks, should enable you to use it almost exactly like Scaler 2 - if you wish - and still benefit from the excellent harmonic assistance available on the create page. I also understand there should be many more tutorials available fairly soon.