Can Scaler 3 Replace EZKeys & EZBass?

I’m just musing here. We’ll know tons more in just a week. But the pre-release teasers are incredibly exciting, and the ability to incorporate 3rd-party VSTs & FX, and to arrange, and to easily manipulate midi all within Scaler 3, prompts me to wonder the degree to which Scaler 3 might enable me to replace EZKeys and EZBass (among other VSTs)?

I do love those Toontrack plugins. But I have found the workflows are pretty punishing when I have to integrate them PLUS Scaler PLUS other instruments into my DAW (Studio One Six, FYI). I’m sure DAWS will still be vital for finished productions, and I know Scaler 3 doesn’t aim to replace DAWs. But am I wrong to think that Scaler 3’s functionality is advanced enough that it will cover a lot of these options?

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Having used Scaler, EZKeys and EZBass since years, I got that Scaler can replace EZKeys and EZBass MIDIs for sure, but it cannot give you the articulations and embellishments that are embedded in Toontrack tools

On the other hand, you can use Scaler to increase the variations offered by Toontrack tools, so I think that using both systems is better if you want that the sound is more realistic

If realism is not needed, you can certainly use Scaler alone with its embedded instruments

my 2 cents

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And why?
For example:
use Scaler to D&D chords into EZKeys
add EZKeys grooves and save the EZKeys project file
import it into EZbass and add grooves
job done for this part

About EZdrummer I sold it in favour of Jamstix (more automatic), but I think you can do the same to find drumlines

Then duplicate the 1st Scaler instance and use it to drive all possible intruments in your DAW

This workflow is easy

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That’s exactly what I was wondering about, Claudio. The Toontracks EZ instruments are really distinguished by their fantastic grooves. I’ve been wondering whether those grooves might be directly importable into Scaler 3 - ideally onto a sketchpad, where they could be compared with each other.

To your other question (“but why?”) you again describe the workflow very well. I just find all that importing and exporting an interruption. But maybe I am just lazy!

Don’t tell that to me: I am very lazy :sweat_smile:
But the result with EZbass is so enticing

Well, if you want an easier way, go to UJAM basses (I am reselling all them at 15 euros/each because my weak PC doesn’t cope with those CPU/RAM wasters) because they work automatically with Scaler, and you don’t need to import anything

On the other way, you cannot export grooves as MIDIs, but I suspect it applies to all closed systems like Toontrack’s, UJAM’s, etc.

I’ve got a bunch of good basses, so I’m set for the time being. Mostly for the past several months, I’ve been working in Loopy Pro and trying to get basses going on my guitar, using amps or MIDI Guitar 2.

Scaler 3 and EZ Keys 2 are great together. Love them both!

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Thanks, Davide! I’ve just begun testing the combo, and it does look at first glance like they do collapse the workflow and enhance creative experimentation. I can’t wait to noodle around more. This is so energizing!

I would be interested in those Ujam basses

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I am selling them through Knobcloud

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Excellent answer and I agree

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S3 has quite a few articulations, in Arranger view.

me, like a dummy did not know EZ Keys has articulations. i’ll check it out, thanks for raising the point.

Hem, maybe I used a wrong term: I am not a musician but rather a mousier
In any case, if there are “articulations”, or call them “human embellishments”, I think that they are embedded into the plugin, and you cannot extract them
But maybe I am just wrong