# What do you want in Scaler 3.0?

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**Category:** Scaler 2 General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 27, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364 "2022-04-27T23:03:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![regbower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@regbower](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/regbower)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 9:58am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/42 "2022-05-15T09:58:27Z")

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I’ve mentioned this before but had no response. I would like to be able to drag a selection of chords from Scaler to my DAW and it would be great if the chord names could be transferred to the DAW as well. I don’t know if this is possible but it would speed up my workflow when writing full tracks and copying and pasting sections.  
Scaler has already identified the chords anyway.

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**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/43 "2022-05-16T01:51:06Z")

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Possible dependent on your DAW:

> [@Reflective Names for MIDI drag & drop clips](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/reflective-names-for-midi-drag-drop-clips/7110/6):
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> Davide posted this back in Nov 2020. "we have added a few features since the release to facilitate working with chord names: You can select multiple chords then using “Right-Click” \> “Copy Chord Names to Clipboard” you can paste those names in the MIDI clip you dragged. You can also export chord names as markers directly on your track. Go to Settings \> Session \> “Export Midi markers”. Now when you drag chords and if your DAW supports it, it will create markers with chord names into your trac…

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**Author:** ![regbower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@regbower](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/regbower)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/44 "2022-05-16T06:37:07Z")

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Thanks davide for the update.  
I’ve tried both methods without success, so it seems that my DAW (Mixcraft pro studio9) doesn’t support this function. Are there any video clips out there of this in action in other DAWs?

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**Author:** ![jjfagot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jjfagot/32/5698_2.png) [@jjfagot](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jjfagot)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 7:35am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/45 "2022-05-16T07:35:34Z")

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I’ve only seen that work in Reaper.  
In other DAWs you have to copy the names to the clipboard, copy there again, and return to the DAW to paste into the timeline  
See also this article in the Forum

> [@Copy chord names to clipboard works only in section C](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/copy-chord-names-to-clipboard-works-only-in-section-c/6946):
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> In the browser section (section A) and in the scale explorer section (section B) the copy chord names to clipboard doesn’t work. Using Windows 10, Live 11, Scaler 2.3.1 VST 3.

It would be great if the names could be directly copied into any DAW, and I include myself in that request. But since it works in Reaper, I think it’s a problem with those DAWs and not with Scaler. Any solution welcome of course

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**Author:** ![Miki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/miki/32/572_2.png) [@Miki](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Miki)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/46 "2022-05-16T09:56:26Z")

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> [@jjfagot](#):
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> I’ve only seen that work in Reaper.

I can confirm - this works very well in Reaper. Maybe this is just not visible in other DAWs because of the combination of colors in takes, the characters being too pale or without enough contrast. I must admit that even in Reaper they are a bit difficult to see but i need to find a better color combination in my DAW, not in Scaler.

Edit: Screen Shots:

1. Section A (selected chords):  
 ![image](https://forum.scalermusic.com/images/transparent.png)

2. Drag & Drop chords to a track in Reaper  
 ![image](https://forum.scalermusic.com/images/transparent.png)

3. The result of Drag & Drop  
 ![image](https://forum.scalermusic.com/images/transparent.png)

4. Zoom (in Reaper)  
 ![image](https://forum.scalermusic.com/images/transparent.png)

As you may see, the names of chords are exactly the same as in the section A

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**Author:** ![swingmix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/swingmix/32/3328_2.png) [@swingmix](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/swingmix)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 6:52am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/47 "2022-05-18T06:52:55Z")

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In STUDIO ONE, I can put the SCALER chord progression in the top chord track of STUDIO ONE.

 ![2022-05-18_145145](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/f/f989b4d554b5d9956de79fa384ff5fbfe2752b3e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mandala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@Mandala](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Mandala)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:04am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/48 "2022-05-18T11:04:12Z")

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Hi there, I have been using Logic Pro for years and in the last year I have found Scaler 2 a great creative and educational tool.

From my perspective in version 3, I would like to see some kind of ability to quickly edit the riffs, bass, melody etc provided. I often use the Logic Pro X arpeggiator interface which allows me to take Scaler 2 chords and quickly adjust when notes and chords play in a bar, with velocity control and an element of note randomness if selected. The key is I play part of my track while interactively adjusting the arpeggiator to find a good fit.

Although this can already be done with Scaler midi record and an editor, it does not have the immediacy of integrated riff manipulation while browsing presets. The facility for randomness within certain parameters can also break up the repetitiveness I can find myself falling into with compositions.

Great to see Scaler going from strength to strength!

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**Author:** ![Phillyn17](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/phillyn17/32/12257_2.png) [@Phillyn17](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Phillyn17)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/49 "2022-05-18T11:45:40Z")

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> I can confirm - this works very well in Reaper. Maybe this is just not visible in other DAWs because of the combination of colors in takes, the characters being too pale or without enough contrast. I must admit that even in Reaper they are a bit difficult to see but i need to find a better color combination in my DAW, not in Scaler.

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If you wish to make the chord titles more prominent in Reaper, simply select:

Actions \> Show Action List \> In “Filter” type “Theme Tweak”, then click on “Theme Development” \> In “Filter” type “Markers” \> Change the colour labelled “Markers” to a more prominent colour.

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**Author:** ![Miki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/miki/32/572_2.png) [@Miki](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Miki)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/50 "2022-05-18T12:17:20Z")

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Thanks Phyllin17. I changed a lot of things in colors, but not markers.  
Now, thanks to your advice, I did it and it changed the way I see the chords. This is perfect 🙂  
 ![image](https://cdck-file-uploads-canada1.s3.dualstack.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/4/4983db477b8c821c6ec6c8f8d84de446b42587e1.png)

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**Author:** ![Phillyn17](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/phillyn17/32/12257_2.png) [@Phillyn17](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Phillyn17)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/51 "2022-05-18T13:55:22Z")

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Cheers Miki …  
Glad you found it useful my friend.  
Take care bro!!

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**Author:** ![kafulu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/kafulu/32/2944_2.png) [@kafulu](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/kafulu)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/52 "2022-05-19T16:26:00Z")

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Pardon me. You want a piano roll view to do midi tweaking or edits?! 🤔🤨🧐

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**Author:** ![Mandala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@Mandala](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Mandala)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 7:07am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/53 "2022-05-20T07:07:35Z")

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Apologies if I did not explain myself clearly.

I would like to see a drop down editor appear within Scaler when melody, bass etc presets are selected and played. The editor would work in a similar way to Logic Pro X arpeggiator, allowing various editing and manipulation of chords and notes over 8 bars or so.

The immediacy of this feature would help speed up workflow. 🚀

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**Author:** ![kafulu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/kafulu/32/2944_2.png) [@kafulu](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/kafulu)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/54 "2022-05-20T16:52:37Z")

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I agree. Scaler Devs over to you.

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**Author:** ![1stInversion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ac91a4/32.png) [@1stInversion](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/1stInversion)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/55 "2022-05-22T20:59:38Z")

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Great thread. I like a lot of what’s asked for and +1 most of it.

This may sound trivial but it isn’t. I’d like the Unions “bug” corrected if possible. As it is now if a Unison (single note) in used in place of a chord in a Pattern when the project is saved, closed and re-open later, the Unions are all removed. The work-around is to use Octave and then mute or delete the unneeded notes. This is not a perfect solution for various reasons. If I had one wish it would be this simple thing worked better. One reason is that guitar parts often feature a chord and some single notes. I’ll leave it at that.

If Scaler stopped right here it would be one of the best musical tools I’ve ever used and I’d use it, as is, for years.

Thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![thomass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/thomass/32/706_2.png) [@thomass](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/thomass)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/56 "2022-06-16T13:04:40Z")

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> [@Reflective Names for MIDI drag & drop clips](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/reflective-names-for-midi-drag-drop-clips/7110/6):
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> Go to Settings \> Session \> “Export Midi markers”. Now when you drag chords and if your DAW supports it, it will create markers with chord names into your trac…

Sic! Logic doesn´t support this.

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**Author:** ![jjfagot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jjfagot/32/5698_2.png) [@jjfagot](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jjfagot)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/57 "2022-06-16T13:20:22Z")

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Logic, no. Neither does Ableton; … but Reaper, yes  
There are some articles in the forum in which we explain how it can be done: basically, select the chords you want to copy, right click and copy to clipboard; go to clipboard, paste, select and copy again. Then, in your DAW place a marker and by putting the name PASTE  
In any case, I adhere to the request, since it should be easier and more comfortable to be able to copy the chords to the timeline of any DAW

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**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/58 "2022-06-16T14:53:25Z")

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> [@jjfagot](#):
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> In any case, I adhere to the request, since it should be easier and more comfortable to be able to copy the chords to the timeline of any DAW

But isn’t this a DAW thing? How would Scaler account for the different or non-existant way that each DAW handle this info from Scaler? Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see how that is even possible since there is no standard for that. Maybe that not what you mean here.

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**Author:** ![jjfagot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jjfagot/32/5698_2.png) [@jjfagot](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jjfagot)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/59 "2022-06-16T15:44:59Z")

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Yes Jamieh. Perhaps I was too hasty in making the request myself, since I am aware (and I think I once recognized it that way) that it is not a problem of Scaler, but of the developers of those DAWs. In fact, if Reaper does it perfectly, it is not understood that the rest cannot do it. apologies

> [@jjfagot](#):
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> It would be great if the names could be directly copied into any DAW, and I include myself in that request. But since it works in Reaper, I think it’s a problem with those DAWs and not with Scaler. Any solution welcome of course

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**Author:** ![A-Tech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47774/32.png) [@A-Tech](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/A-Tech)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/60 "2022-07-04T22:31:47Z")

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To be honest. I never saw Scaler crash or cause a crash. And with all respect, what are you doing with 1400 plugin?! Isn’t that the source of your issues? Interoperability?

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**Author:** ![78deluxe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/7/d78d45/32.png) [@78deluxe](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/78deluxe)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-do-you-want-in-scaler-3-0/10364/61 "2022-07-04T23:04:25Z")

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Scaler has historically crashed with multiple instances and with virtually no other plugins going on. DAW never crashes with my other plugins, however adding Scaler the probability of a crash skyrockets. (which is sad, as it is my favorite tool in the box)

I haven’t had time to use 2.6 much yet due to life situations and hoping we continued to see stability improvements.

My plugin folder could use some cleaning up, but honestly 1400 plugins isn’t anything unusual. Just Melda, IK Multimedia, and Plugin Alliance alone puts that number in the 400+ range easily.

It isn’t like they all get used on a project. Chances are most tracks are going to have no more than 20 effects on the whole thing, including the master bus.

If you haven’t aquired 1400 plugins (DAW and 3rd party provided) over your life span, I’m going to guess you likley haven’t been doing the computer recording thing for all that long. Or you simply have more sense than the average music creator.

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