# Verbose Chord Name showing Flats and Sharps

**URL:** <https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/verbose-chord-name-showing-flats-and-sharps/10073>\
**Category:** Scaler 2 General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 16, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/verbose-chord-name-showing-flats-and-sharps/10073 "2022-03-16T19:13:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![johannrenck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@johannrenck](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/johannrenck)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/verbose-chord-name-showing-flats-and-sharps/10073/1 "2022-03-16T19:13:09Z")

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Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to tell Scaler 2 to display chord names using flats or sharps not both? For instance currently is showing **D#/Eb min** , I would like to only display it **Eb min**

Thanks!

Johann

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**Author:** ![yorkeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/edb3f5/32.png) [@yorkeman](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/yorkeman)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/verbose-chord-name-showing-flats-and-sharps/10073/2 "2022-03-16T19:55:45Z")

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Welcome @johannrenck .

There has been quite a bit of traffic on this topic, and it’s worthwhile doing a few searches to see what the issues were.  
For example @davide - who is a rare combination of musical and architectural skills - set out some aspects of systems issues at

> [@Key nomenclature](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/key-nomenclature/7915):
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> I note that Scaler sometimes styles keys in non-standard ways, e.g. Fb minor (i.e., E minor), or G# major (i.e., Ab major). These do not align with normal conventions and it would be useful if Scaler set the nomenclature to the correct enharmonic name. It doesn’t have any practical implication in terms if music output but since Scaler is acting as a theory tutor to some degree, this should be corrected.

The upshot is that there isn’t a completely common view, leavings the Scaler folk in the middle. Still, I am sure comments will soon arrive, and you can be sure that Scaler’s approach to this will be balanced and thought out.

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**Author:** ![johannrenck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@johannrenck](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/johannrenck)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/verbose-chord-name-showing-flats-and-sharps/10073/3 "2022-03-16T20:21:46Z")

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Thanks for the link, interesting discussion, I can guess than now is showing both (flat and sharp together) in answer to that discussion?

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**Author:** ![Bernd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/bernd/32/1320_2.png) [@Bernd](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Bernd)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/verbose-chord-name-showing-flats-and-sharps/10073/4 "2022-03-17T15:26:55Z")

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as a musical newbie I found it useful that Scaler shows the equivalents, even if it may look convoluted to a pro. Perhaps a switch under options could accomodate both camps?

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**Author:** ![jjfagot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jjfagot/32/5698_2.png) [@jjfagot](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jjfagot)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/verbose-chord-name-showing-flats-and-sharps/10073/5 "2022-03-17T15:48:38Z")

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Enharmony is a reality in music. Sorry on music theory.  
Sometimes, when I played, I hoped that the notation would be as simple as possible so that I could interpret it as correctly as possible…, but I met Wagner on one occasion. I never understood why he wrote 9 sharps when he could have made the interpretation of his work much easier with 3 flats.  
Surely he didn’t understand why the musicians in the orchestra made faces at him when they met him.

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**Author:** ![johannrenck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@johannrenck](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/johannrenck)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/verbose-chord-name-showing-flats-and-sharps/10073/6 "2022-03-22T14:16:52Z")

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Actually I clear everything and then started again and the chords now are showing as expected, Scaler2 might have been working on the idea that the scale I have was more complex
