# Subtle humanisation in velocity and timing request...? **URL:** \ **Category:** Scaler 2 Feature Requests\ **Created:** [May 26, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248 "2021-05-26T20:16:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MasterTuner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MasterTuner](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/MasterTuner)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248/1 "2021-05-26T20:16:13Z")
Looking at Scaler 2.4, some very nice functonality added, thanks. How about adding subtle humanisation in terms of midi velocity and timing? Might be nice when you’re sending midi to orchestral instruments (e.g. short strong ostinatos) ---
**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248/2 "2021-05-26T20:44:34Z")
There is in the top right Humanise menu, you can vary velocity or timing or both. Moves both between 5&15% Am I misunderstanding your post? Obviously this is an area we would love to expand upon in the future. ---
**Author:** ![MasterTuner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MasterTuner](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/MasterTuner)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248/3 "2021-05-26T21:31:21Z")
sorry, didn’t know that was there. nice one. ---
**Author:** ![JustMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@JustMe](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/JustMe)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248/4 "2021-08-14T20:21:49Z")
Hallo davide, I am using Scaler 2.4.0 VST3 and I am unhappy about the Velocity Humanize Function. Your last post suggests a 5-15% deviation, but when switching on “Humanize velocity”, I see velocity ranging from about 60 to 120. Which is definitely out of your given range and “overhumanized”:-). Without Humanize I see a velocity of 89. Please look into this and also provide a choice of Humanize amount, separately for velocity and timing. ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248/5 "2021-08-14T20:53:43Z")
I think that might come in full number update. Maybe starting in version 3. The quantize section needs revamped as well so it can be used with the velocity setting. ---
**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248/6 "2021-08-16T20:55:01Z")
Hi @JustMe Yes velocity is a little more the 5-15% deviation, I was referring specifically to timing which is 5-15%. Humanizing will get a complete overhaul and be very customisable in the future. Stay tuned and thanks for feedback. ---
**Author:** ![clavia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@clavia](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/clavia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248/7 "2021-11-02T10:10:41Z")
Better humanisation for velocity and timing is something I wish for since a long time. Not happy with it like the thread starter. It’s mainly a issue of having no controller about the range of the randomisation. This plugin nailed that part for me. start, end, velocity, all very easy and detailed controllable. [Chordz](https://www.codefn42.com/chordz/) ---
**Author:** ![DanDiplo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/dandiplo/32/9300_2.png) [@DanDiplo](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/DanDiplo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/subtle-humanisation-in-velocity-and-timing-request/7248/8 "2023-06-01T14:37:44Z")
Yes, I’d like more control over the humanisation feature, especially in regard to velocity. Currently the velocity variation range is far too large, which doesn’t sound at all natural and prevents me from ever using it. Something more subtle and human sounding would be great.