# So Scaler 3 standalone has no ASIO support
**URL:** https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589
**Category:** Scaler 3 General Discussion
**Created:** [March 25, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589 "2025-03-25T11:47:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@madmarcus1960](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/madmarcus1960)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/1 "2025-03-25T11:47:24Z")
It isn’t in the drop down menu for Audio/MIDI Setup. Is this temporary?
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### Author:  [@OldWiseMan](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/OldWiseMan)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/2 "2025-03-25T20:05:50Z")
Same, every other standalone app see my Antelope Zen Q and the ASIO drivers but Scaler 3 no sign of ASIO, by design or a bug?
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### Author:  [@ekerzendorfer](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ekerzendorfer)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/3 "2025-03-25T20:13:53Z")
I just noticed this shortcoming as well. All these Windows and Direct Sound drivers generally have high latency and are largely unusable in practice. Will there be an ASIO driver for the standalone version in the future?
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### Author:  [@PhatMonkey](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/PhatMonkey)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/4 "2025-03-25T20:30:48Z")
Yeah it is strange there is no ASIO support for the standalone, however by loading Scaler 3 into PluginBuddy (free) you can use ASIO with little to no noticeable latency…
Cheers
Ryan
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### Author:  [@Miki](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Miki)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/5 "2025-03-25T20:40:04Z")
> [@OldWiseMan](#):
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> Same, every other standalone app see my Antelope Zen Q and the ASIO drivers but Scaler 3 no sign of ASIO, by design or a bug?
This is by design. Maybe in one of the future releases.
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### Author:  [@ZincT](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ZincT)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/6 "2025-03-25T20:43:06Z")
Yes I noticed this - definitely needs fixing.
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### Author:  [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/7 "2025-03-25T20:48:12Z")
Anyway, it seems to me that Windows Audio in exclusive mode (WASAPI) is as good as ASIO nowadays, at the point I switch from one of them to the other only if the audio crashes
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### Author:  [@madmarcus1960](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/madmarcus1960)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/8 "2025-03-25T23:04:34Z")
ASIO is the benchmark for Windows base DAWs, VSTs. It’s a major oversight for a standalone. I obviously can use ASIO in Reaper or Blue Cat Patchwork, but still, I believe I could achieve better latency with ASIO in standalone. Just my 2 cents.
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### Author:  [@MusicStudent](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/MusicStudent)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/9 "2025-03-26T00:26:35Z")
Yes, exactly no ASIO with Standalone - This is not good for me. Ya, I can work around it but shouldn’t have to.
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### Author:  [@darrylarthur](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/darrylarthur)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/10 "2025-03-26T01:16:23Z")
It is strange indeed that there is no ASIO support in the standalone. It begs the question of whether it should even be called a standalone app if it needs to run inside a wrapper in order to be used live.
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### Author:  [@ZincT](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ZincT)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2025, 9:19am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/11 "2025-03-26T09:19:11Z")
It does seem odd as S3 appears to be using a “standard” Audio/MIDI settings dialog box. Maybe part of a standard API library IDK?
Here’s a very similar one in a **free** app (Plugin Buddy) which includes ASIO
and yet the almost identical one in Scaler 3 doesn’t.
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### Author:  [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2025, 9:26am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/12 "2025-03-26T09:26:44Z")
> [@madmarcus1960](#):
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> I believe I could achieve better latency with ASIO in standalone
I don’t know for standalone, because I don’t use it
And I don’t know how much latency you need
In my case, in Bitwig, the WASAPI lets me go down to 10 ms, that is the same value of ASIO
Reading posts in other music portals, it seems that WASAPI exclusive mode is in pair with ASIO now
So, why not trying it and see?
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### Author:  [@larrytucker1](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/larrytucker1)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/13 "2025-03-26T21:16:42Z")
Asio Not available… I 44K the highest sampling rate for Standalone scaler??
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### Author:  [@MusicStudent](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/MusicStudent)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/14 "2025-03-26T21:39:41Z")
Here is Scaler 2 Standalone (Using Tone2) and it had ASIO with tons of Audio output options. I am confident this is simply an oversight and we will see ASIO for the standalone in a bit..
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### Author:  [@MusicStudent](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/MusicStudent)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/15 "2025-04-02T14:06:49Z")
Don’t understand why this has not gotten more air time in the forum. The 1.0.1 beta still has audio output issues for me without ASIO. The output options just do not work well with my MOTU and Win 11 system - the windows drivers all have timing issues.
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### Author:  [@SonicMojo](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/SonicMojo)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/16 "2025-04-02T14:34:58Z")
Noted here as well. With no ability to interface with my RME UCX-II - standalone is essentially useless at this point.
I find it baffling that they even included this Audio/Midi Settings dialog in the first place as having to resort to ANY “Windows Audio” driver for audio/composition/MIDI controller requirements is like a poke in the eye to anyone who made the effort to purchase a professional interface.
If Scaler 3 is aimed at getting pro users to move away from their professional interfaces and accept their crappy built in Reaktek onboard sound chips as the defualt position for standalone - they need to rethink this rollout.
S
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### Author:  [@boingy](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/boingy)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/17 "2025-04-02T16:16:15Z")
With no ASIO and no MIDI out I think the standalone didn’t really get much love and/or was the poor relation during development. It probably doesn’t help that Davide and some of the team seem to be predominantly Mac users so ASIO is not a thing.
But I think those improvements will come. In the meantime the VST2 of Scaler 3 runs very well with ASIO inside the free Nanohost from Tone2 (no MIDI out though). Linky: [NanoHost freeware - minimalist VST host](https://www.tone2.com/nanohost.html)
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### Author:  [@RichardJ](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/RichardJ)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/18 "2025-04-02T17:13:51Z")
+1 ASIO is essential for Windows audio if you want high quality and low latency.
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### Author:  [@ZincT](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ZincT)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/19 "2025-04-02T17:38:32Z")
SAVIHost works with the VST2 and has ASIO support, MIDI in and out.
[https://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm](https://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm)
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### Author:  [@MusicStudent](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/MusicStudent)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/so-scaler-3-standalone-has-no-asio-support/19589/20 "2025-04-02T18:07:47Z")
Tone2 - YES… Thank you - that actually appears to work very well. Exactly how I run Scaler2 Standalone for years. Now there is no rush to get this fixed in Scaler 3. 😄
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