I can see how amazing this app is in conception, but I find it so frustring to use that I think I’m going to give up trying. Just a couple of thing stand out today - the tiny thin bars for navigating the piano roll and timeline mean that about 4/5 attempts to use them fail. Then when I want to select a chord to change its length, as often as not the little bars at the edges will appear, but I can’t move them (and it’s not due to the selected time division).
There’s several other issues I’ve encountered, which I’ve reported. All in all it seems like scaler 3 is an amazing idea with partial successful implementation, rather then a pro app at this time. With an improved UI and some bug fixes, it could really be awesome.
Thanks for the feedback. Yes no doubt the timeline selection is difficult given the screen realestate and we have considered ways for a pop up (like when changing parameters in the sidebar). Can you not just two finger scroll around? Or use the scroll bars? That’s what I do.
Also in terms of lengthening/shortening the chord, are you using the stretch gesture? Im certain you have seen this video:
Fully agree. I want to embrace it, but when it comes to using it in reality, it makes all the things I love about making music on the iPad a challenge. I can’t say the same about tens of other sequencers, about AUM, nor Loopy Pro. It feels like Scaler 3 for iPad remains a desktop port with some concessions for touch rather than a design for touch. Screen real estate isn’t the same problem on so many other apps, so why is it a problem on Scaler 3?
I’m in agreement with the general experience described in this thread on iPad. I really like Scaler 3 but I want to love it. I’ve worked a lot with it on iPad and on desktop since it was released on each platform.
To be helpful to the Scaler team, I’ve provided specific details on the UI related issues that I’ve grappled with (link below with video). I’d be very interested to know if I’m an outlier, or if others have had similar experiences. The more detail the better.
Hey @EdZbflat I’ve watched that video and note that a few of the quirks were resoled in 3.3 for iPad in the two finger scroll works better, timelines position and chord selection remain in place across pages and several other improvements. Working with multiple chords (particularly small ones) laid across a long timeline is not ideal, but with timeline and chord selections steady you can zoom in, go to another tab and return at the same place. Also to mitigate this I tend to work with Scenes which I find very useful when laid out as sections (Verse, Chorus etc etc).
Having said all of that, and addressing your confusion on how to build and look for chords one by one as you build (and of course there are many ways to do this in Scaler 2/3) ,we are introducing an immediate and accessible new overlay that effectively makes chord exploration easy and rewarding in Scaler 3.4. I think of it as a shortcut to the more powerful exploratory areas of S3.
I find that using an apple pen or pen clone makes it much easier to navigate the trickier UI stuff on the iPad version. I know that it is not the intent to use a pen but at least for my fat fingers it is much easier.
@davide Thanks for reviewing it and checking the video from my cross post. I’m a bit confused by your reply about some of the issues or quirks shown being addressed in Scaler 3.3. At the very start of the video it shows that it is Scaler 3.3.1 build 7a997824, which is identical with the current version I have on my iPad and it reports as up to date in the App Store today. If I’m missing something please fill me in.
p.s. - I don’t want to clutter up this thread with my own specific questions, but if @SpaceElf1 and I are referring to some similar behaviors, I’d like to make our efforts align, and at the same time, simplify things for the Scaler team.
@penrick I’ve got an Apple Pencil (not the pro), and I’ve tried it in Scaler a bit. It’s an excellent suggestion - I’ll give it another shot and see how it goes.
