# Send Midi CC Passed to other Virtual Instruments **URL:** \ **Category:** Scaler 2 Feature Requests\ **Created:** [August 13, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650 "2020-08-13T15:12:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jaandlu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@Jaandlu](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Jaandlu)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/1 "2020-08-13T15:12:55Z")
The ability to control other instruments with Scaler makes it the most powerful tool in my arsenal. Unfortunately, due to it not passing those Control Changes, I can not be expressive with my playing. For example, using pitch bend, modulation, volume, and preset changes is currently not possible when using Scaler 2 with other instruments. It would be awesome if you could get scaler to pass not only Midi notes but Midi control changes as well so we could incorporate it into live playing. ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/2 "2020-08-13T19:45:58Z")
It works just fine to pass CC info and anything else as long as you are using the VST version. It doesn’t using AU if you are Mac based. ---
**Author:** ![Bernd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/bernd/32/1320_2.png) [@Bernd](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Bernd)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/3 "2020-08-13T21:53:28Z")
I vaguely remember there being a known issue with the VST3 standard/implementation that was related to the CC pass-through. Can’t find the actual thread, but here’s a related one confirming that the VST3 version has issues (not sure if this is still the case since that thread is from 2019) > [@Midi CC not being received on instrument only Scaler so no control of modulation, expression etc](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/midi-cc-not-being-received-on-instrument-only-scaler-so-no-control-of-modulation-expression-etc/1247): > > Hi there. Amazing plugin - love it. I have a probelm though I’m desperate to solve. When I’m using Scaler through another instrument in Kontakt the midi cc doesn’t work on the instrument. It seems to be affecting the Scaler track only so I can’t control modulation, expression on my strings. Is there any way to fix this?? I’m using Studio One. Thanks so much. ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/4 "2020-08-14T02:49:08Z")
VST3 is still a problem. Does not past CC info. Only VST seems to work. ---
**Author:** ![Jaandlu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@Jaandlu](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Jaandlu)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/5 "2020-08-14T19:46:30Z")
And that is the solution. Use VST2 not VST3 and it works just fine. ---
**Author:** ![inz1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e95f7d/32.png) [@inz1](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/inz1)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/6 "2021-01-12T01:26:31Z")
An alternate approach is through midi routing. I didn’t have the VST2 version installed and I tend to lean to this approach anyhow as I typically route and transform my midi data so I can control varying parameters on multiple instruments from each control simultaneously. In this case I set up a 2 channels receiving midi from the Seaboard Rise, filtered out the note data on one routing only the CC data from the Seaboard to Ensemble… while Scaler2 is set up to receive and provide only the note data. ![Screen Shot 2021-01-11 at 8.12.19 PM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/images/transparent.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nordstorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dec6dc/32.png) [@Nordstorm](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Nordstorm)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/7 "2023-05-10T13:47:39Z")
> [@Midi CC not being received on instrument only Scaler so no control of modulation, expression etc](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/midi-cc-not-being-received-on-instrument-only-scaler-so-no-control-of-modulation-expression-etc/1247/1): > > have a probelm though I’m desperate to solve. When I’m using Scaler through another instrument in Kontakt the midi cc doesn’t work on the instrument. It seems to be affecting the Scaler track only so I can’t control modulation, expression on my strings. Is there any way to fix this?? I’m using Studio One. Thanks so much. How can i fix this - it is still not working for me ---
**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/8 "2023-05-10T21:20:42Z")
Have you read this thread @Nordstorm ? Are you using VST2? ---
**Author:** ![Nordstorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dec6dc/32.png) [@Nordstorm](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Nordstorm)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/send-midi-cc-passed-to-other-virtual-instruments/4650/9 "2023-05-11T13:04:16Z")
Yes i try VST2 Version. it will work only with one patch in Kontakt and not with the Divisi Mode (4 Part Stuff). And when i try that with vst 2 and with one Kontakt 7 Patch (Cinematic Studio String), i have constantly midi hang up…all the notes do not stop palying after release the key. i dont know…it is frustrating a bit It works with OT sine player maybe the problem is, that CC1 (Modwheel) only working on MIDI CH 1. then is clear, that on other Parts are no CC1 information. It is possible to bring Midi CC1 to all Channels? best regards and thx…hope there is a solution