# Scaler 2.8.1 new feature: automating fill in Section C

**URL:** <https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027>\
**Category:** Scaler 2 General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 26, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027 "2023-06-26T16:51:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/1 "2023-06-26T16:51:21Z")

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I found a strange and an amazing feature:

The amazing feature is that if you put one chord into section C then click on Suggest \> Pattern all the 7 remaining places can be filled with chords  
Now add another line with the + sign, click on Pattern and the 2nd line will be full of chords automatically!  
You can go on this way up to the end of the remaining lines with just a few clicks  
😍

The strange feature is that Scaler developers add improvements silently, but mention just fixes  
🤔 😀

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**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/2 "2023-06-27T01:53:39Z")

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And you can even just open a new Scaler and just click suggest and Pattern and Fill and it will give you a unique chord progression that is different every time and is AI led based on the artist created content internally!

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**Author:** ![skank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@skank](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/skank)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 9:53am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/3 "2023-07-06T09:53:28Z")

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Going to try this out now, thank you @ClaudioPorcellana!

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**Author:** ![skank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@skank](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/skank)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/4 "2023-07-06T10:39:25Z")

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> [@davide](#):
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> And you can even just open a new Scaler and just click suggest and Pattern and Fill and it will give you a unique chord progression that is different every time and is AI led based on the artist created content internally!

Can you detail this out for me a little please? I cannot yet seem to find fill feature for eg.

What I have been able to do it open Scalar, Click Suggest =\> Pattern =\> Then pads are filled with chords, but from there I haven’t seen how to use the fill feature yet.

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**Author:** ![TMacD](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/tmacd/32/6358_2.png) [@TMacD](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/TMacD)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/5 "2023-07-06T21:29:03Z")

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I’m pretty sure that is the _Fill_ feature. If you have no chords in a pattern and hit Suggest / Pattern, it will Fill the pattern with chords. If you have some chords already in a pattern and hit Suggest, clicking the Pattern button will give you the option to Override Current Pattern with _Replace_, which replaces all chords in the current pattern or _Fill_, which will fill in any empty Chords.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/a/ac069ab15fb43ad95b10c7aa1e09093b724c0ed5.png)

I use this all the time and it is a great way to quickly play with ideas. Combined with Scaler’s ability to change playback settings in real-time, you can do a bunch of really cool stuff quickly. Also, if you want to do some key changes, This feature combined with the Mod feature (letting you find paths to certain chords) is a great way to explore options.

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**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/6 "2023-07-06T21:56:34Z")

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@TMacD  
It is not just Fill  
try to hit “+” to add an empty line, then hit Pattern and nothing else…

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**Author:** ![skank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@skank](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/skank)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/7 "2023-07-07T12:20:07Z")

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> [@TMacD](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that is the _Fill_ feature. If you have no chords in a pattern and hit Suggest / Pattern, it will Fill the pattern with chords. If you have some chords already in a pattern and hit Suggest, clicking the Pattern button will give you the option to Override Current Pattern with _Replace_, which replaces all chords in the current pattern or _Fill_, which will fill in any empty Chords.
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> I use this all the time and it is a great way to quickly play with ideas. Combined with Scaler’s ability to change playback settings in real-time, you can do a bunch of really cool stuff quickly. Also, if you want to do some key changes, This feature combined with the Mod feature (letting you find paths to certain chords) is a great way to explore options.

Thank you, this is so helpful.

> [@TMacD](#):
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> Combined with Scaler’s ability to change playback settings in real-time, you can do a bunch of really cool stuff quickly.

Are there any tutorials etc on this?

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**Author:** ![TMacD](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/tmacd/32/6358_2.png) [@TMacD](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/TMacD)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/8 "2023-07-11T14:38:39Z")

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Below is a post and little video I did on the Exploring Scaller Settings topic.

FWIW, I tend to think of Scaler in several modes:  
1 **Learn and Practice** - using things like key locking for chord learning and play quantize for timing practice  
2 **Compose and Produce** - using things like existing chords & patterns, as well as Suggest and Performances to get a particular sound I’m looking for.  
3 **Explore and Create** (by far my favorite) - using the settings and various performance modes almost like a synth. It lets me play with the different settings in real-time to see what can be teased out of Scaler. I’ll also feed Scaler’s midi back into Scaler in what might be called a recursive pattern.

I sense most people just scratch the surface when it comes to this amazing tool. When you start combining settings, performances modes, instruments and midi sequences, the paths through Scaler are, for all practical purposes, infinite.

> [@Exploring Scaler's Performance settings....an easier way the look beyond the chords](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/exploring-scalers-performance-settings-an-easier-way-the-look-beyond-the-chords/9104):
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> We all know Scaler is a chord creation and playback machine, but what about the performance playback engine? If you are new to Scaler (or maybe not) do you ever wonder what all the performance settings actually did and how they influenced each other. If so, did you know you could change almost all of Scaler’s performance settings while it is playing, letting you hear the changes almost instantly without missing a beat? You can even keep the Settings pane open letting you more easily see (an…

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**Author:** ![skank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@skank](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/skank)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/9 "2023-07-11T14:51:42Z")

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> [@TMacD](#):
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> 1 **Learn and Practice** - using things like key locking for chord learning and play quantize for timing practice  
> 2 **Compose and Produce** - using things like existing chords & patterns, as well as Suggest and Performances to get a particular sound I’m looking for.  
> 3 **Explore and Create** (by far my favorite) - using the settings and various performance modes almost like a synth. It lets me play with the different settings in real-time to see what can be teased out of Scaler. I’ll also feed Scaler’s midi back into Scaler in what might be called a recursive pattern.

Thank you, particularly interested in the real time potential there.

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**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-8-1-new-feature-automating-fill-in-section-c/14027/10 "2023-07-11T15:52:49Z")

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You forgot another mode:  
put together a minimal and quick base, then jam forever with your preferred solo instrument  
😀 😍
