# Scaler 2.5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Scaler 2 General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 25, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439 "2021-10-25T14:08:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![swingmix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/swingmix/32/3328_2.png) [@swingmix](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/swingmix)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/1 "2021-10-25T14:08:44Z")
Does scaler 2.5 have a demo screenshot for you to see. I’m really looking forward to the new features. 😀 😀 😀 ---
**Author:** ![LightWingStudios](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/lightwingstudios/32/2977_2.png) [@LightWingStudios](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/LightWingStudios)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/2 "2021-10-27T21:39:48Z")
Patience Grasshopper…patience. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bernd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/bernd/32/1320_2.png) [@Bernd](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Bernd)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/3 "2021-10-28T15:48:26Z")
lol, I haven’t heard that in a long while 😉 ![image](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/images/transparent.png) ---
**Author:** ![swingmix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/swingmix/32/3328_2.png) [@swingmix](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/swingmix)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 7:42am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/4 "2021-10-30T07:42:27Z")
I can’t wait. I’m anxious to see the new features of 2.5 😂 ---
**Author:** ![swingmix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/swingmix/32/3328_2.png) [@swingmix](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/swingmix)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/5 "2021-10-30T11:56:45Z")
Today, I used chord prism on my friend’s machine. To be honest, chord prism confused me. ![2021-10-30_195337](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/b/bd660bf20aee3f2932b43585b1c86a776b6bafcd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![2KA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ac8455/32.png) [@2KA](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/2KA)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/6 "2021-10-31T02:49:25Z")
Me too. Can´t wait to see how voice leading will be implemented in the guitar update. ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/7 "2021-10-31T19:48:58Z")
> [@swingmix](#): > > To be honest, chord prism confused me Me too, but maybe because the very different workflows Since I use Scaler, I found confusing all the other composition plugins I tested, but maybe that if I started with one of the other composition plugins, I would have ended to find Scaler confounding ---
**Author:** ![yorkeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/edb3f5/32.png) [@yorkeman](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/yorkeman)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/8 "2021-10-31T21:42:27Z")
I’m still not clear on the economic model for Scaler, primarily because it’s hard to assess how many users there are. This I think is further complicated by the fact (very unusually for a software product such as this) past comments have indicated that Davide and Co use it as part of their business. If this dramatically cuts down the time and improves the quality of the end product of commissioned works (one of their business lines), then that must be a significant ‘soft’ contributor to the revenue model. The point of mentioning this is that there must be an upgrade licence in the future, but thus far it appears it will be the ‘big’ number i.e. 3.x.x. Having been in the licenced software product game for the whole of my (pre-retirement) life, IMHO Scaler is **by far** and away the best bang for my pound (buck, euro, baht, whatever) of any software product I use in terms of satisfaction. I’m discounting Open Source here, because you don’t get vendor support for nothing in 99.9^% of cases. Here, you get a problem addressed when Melbourne wakes up. ---
**Author:** ![swingmix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/swingmix/32/3328_2.png) [@swingmix](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/swingmix)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 11:39am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/9 "2021-11-01T11:39:22Z")
Do you have any comments on band in a box? I used it for several months. I personally think it’s good. In particular, input chords, select styles, and generate real tracks. Can let me finish a song demo quickly ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/10 "2021-11-01T17:26:56Z")
> [@swingmix](#): > > band in a box I bought it and asked for a refund after a few days: no feeling at all I think to remember the reasons were the interface, the learning curve way longer than Ableton, and the closed ecosystem ---
**Author:** ![clavia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@clavia](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/clavia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 10:04am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/11 "2021-11-02T10:04:19Z")
I’m would be even happy to pay for an 2.5 upgrade. The most important thing is that scaler evolves and stays iLok free, it’s a great tool. ---
**Author:** ![Rosko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/34f0e0/32.png) [@Rosko](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Rosko)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/12 "2021-11-06T17:00:44Z")
> [@swingmix](#): > > chord prism confused Its actually really simple to use. The way you can assign scales to the black notes is really what i hoped scaler 2 would offer. ---
**Author:** ![swingmix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/swingmix/32/3328_2.png) [@swingmix](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/swingmix)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:23am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/13 "2021-11-08T08:23:38Z")
I hope scaler can have similar functions and be more perfect ---
**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/14 "2021-11-17T12:33:10Z")
Available now at PIB! Looking forward to feedback ---
**Author:** ![hummersallad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@hummersallad](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/hummersallad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/15 "2021-11-17T13:11:00Z")
After having watched the first third of the 2.5 video I must say that Suggest mode is really great! Fantastic job! Now back to the video and the rest of the new features! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![swingmix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/swingmix/32/3328_2.png) [@swingmix](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/swingmix)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/16 "2021-11-17T13:33:58Z")
The suggest mode is very good. With the addition of guitar, Scaler has become a better learning tool and creation tool. Be able to imagine the efforts of Scale Team behind the scenes. I believe Scaler will be more and more popular. ---
**Author:** ![netuno60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/2bfe46/32.png) [@netuno60](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/netuno60)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/17 "2021-11-17T14:52:27Z")
Thank you for this great update. I liked very much the Suggested mode. It turns out scaler more easier to use. ---
**Author:** ![Miki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/miki/32/572_2.png) [@Miki](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Miki)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/18 "2021-11-17T15:55:23Z")
I only watched the 2.5 video, but I’ll download this version after the job. It looks great. Suggest mode seems to be a major improvement and guitar options are fantastic. Hardly waiting to try it. ---
**Author:** ![1stInversion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ac91a4/32.png) [@1stInversion](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/1stInversion)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/19 "2021-11-17T16:14:11Z")
Congratulations on another impressive update. I’ve not yet explored all the many, significant improvements you’ve made. I was particular glad to see more Guitar features and the new Drop voicing options – that’s how I think. I just now watched the new intro video, immediately installed the update and I’m looking forward to diving in. I know many people worked hard to make this happen, My thanks to the whole team who lent their skills and passion to the project. ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439/20 "2021-11-17T17:27:13Z")
Looks quite awesome! Thanks for all the hard work in this. Good way to head into the holiday season. Super job on this! [Next page](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-5/8439.md?page=2)