# Scaler 2.1.2 crashes Ableton **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [October 27, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-1-2-crashes-ableton/5318 "2020-10-27T11:35:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MAGDA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@MAGDA](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/MAGDA)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-1-2-crashes-ableton/5318/1 "2020-10-27T11:35:31Z")
Hey my VST and VST3 crashes Ableton over and over again. all of a sudden and results won’t be restored at any point. Its really destroying my workflow with the plugin which is driving me crazy because I really love it 😃 do other people have similar problems ? ---
**Author:** ![ppppp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@ppppp](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ppppp)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-1-2-crashes-ableton/5318/2 "2020-10-27T17:38:40Z")
Hi, yes, same with Cubase 10.5. More or less random, often a simple click anywhere in the GUI is enough to Crash Cubase. I am used to it since Scaler v1, not sure if they are able to adress the instability issues. I have moved away, too much hazzle (although I liked it as well) ---
**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-1-2-crashes-ableton/5318/4 "2020-10-28T00:05:00Z")
Welcome @MAGDA It’s rock solid for me and thousands of other users, certainly as much as you would expect from any plug. May I suggest you post specific details such as OS platform and crash type - that way one of the devs here may analyse… ---
**Author:** ![Bernd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/bernd/32/1320_2.png) [@Bernd](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Bernd)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:06am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-1-2-crashes-ableton/5318/6 "2020-11-05T05:06:09Z")
Just downloaded Scaler version 2.1.2, running it on Ableton Live 10 Lite, seems to work fine (Windows 8.1 x64) ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/3/31377af1c722005a7a6432b2567b44f753238164.png) ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-2-1-2-crashes-ableton/5318/7 "2020-11-05T17:25:09Z")
in my case Ableton and Scaler worked for some weeks, then Ableton started crashing just trying to reopen projects that were managed without an issue a few days before I really don’t know why, as I updated/installed nothing, but as I don’t do music for living I used the old good policy, i.e. throwing the offending sw in the garbage bin now I acquired Reaper and I can upload Ableton into Reaper and the RAM sucked is a lot less and nothing crashes! in any case, if somebody wants a second-hand Ableton Live 9… 😃