# Quick and easy way to change the key/mode of presets/patterns (see example)

**URL:** <https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/quick-and-easy-way-to-change-the-key-mode-of-presets-patterns-see-example/12330>\
**Category:** Scaler 2 Feature Requests\
**Created:** [November 25, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/quick-and-easy-way-to-change-the-key-mode-of-presets-patterns-see-example/12330 "2022-11-25T02:43:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@Atom](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Atom)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/quick-and-easy-way-to-change-the-key-mode-of-presets-patterns-see-example/12330/1 "2022-11-25T02:43:24Z")

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I’d really love it if there was a simple way to change the key/mode of song/artist/user presets and patterns. This is a fast way to experiment with new ideas and get far more variety from existing content.

Starting with the chord progression for _Let It Be_ in CMaj, what if I want to hear it in _minor_ or _mixolydian_ mode, or _F# dorian_? Here’s a great example of how easy it should be:  
 ![Key Change](https://cdck-file-uploads-canada1.s3.dualstack.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/9/9949e72770ecabe96b641385703cef1fcca40fb6.gif)

Is anyone able to outline the number and order of steps to do the exact same thing in Scaler? 🤔

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**Author:** ![ed66](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/ed66/32/5339_2.png) [@ed66](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ed66)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/quick-and-easy-way-to-change-the-key-mode-of-presets-patterns-see-example/12330/2 "2022-11-25T12:17:19Z")

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There is

> [@Atom](#):
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> a simple way to change the key/mode of song/artist/user presets and patterns.

section A to any key and mode. I have described it in the tutorial [Transposing Patterns](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/transposing-patterns/10462).

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**Author:** ![Atom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@Atom](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Atom)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:05am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/quick-and-easy-way-to-change-the-key-mode-of-presets-patterns-see-example/12330/3 "2022-11-26T07:05:04Z")

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Thank you. That’s very helpful. I’m still finding my way around and assumed lock was just an on/off toggle.

Are you aware of anyway to do the same for patterns/chords in section C? If you already have progression saved or start a new one and decide you want to change modes it seems you’re kinda boxed in at that point without a ton of tweaking.

The pattern right-click menu only has 4 options, force into scale would be quite useful there too, especially if you want to duplicate a pattern and try a ham-fisted trucker’s gear change. 🐖 🚛

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**Author:** ![Atom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@Atom](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Atom)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 4:29am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/quick-and-easy-way-to-change-the-key-mode-of-presets-patterns-see-example/12330/4 "2022-12-03T04:29:05Z")

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Actually it looks like this is another hair-pulling partial solution. 🫣  
Apparently the _Maintain/Force Into Scale_ feature only works with factory presets.

What if I import/detect my own progression, or load a user preset and want to force the detected chords into a different root/mode to match my project?

Or if I import an existing chord progression from my project into Scaler and want to force the detected chords into a different scale to create a new section?

Scale forcing should _always_ remain an option in section A and also be added to section C. Limiting such an important feature to factory presets with no way change the scale of existing patterns is a major drawback.

 ![Scaler Scale Lock](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/f/f85f66f47baed1a59bc79e647d8e90820beda101.jpeg)

With the original example I posted (a website!) it’s a simple click which intuitively shows harmonically compatible modes using the circle of fifths. With Scaler? 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![ed66](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/ed66/32/5339_2.png) [@ed66](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ed66)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/quick-and-easy-way-to-change-the-key-mode-of-presets-patterns-see-example/12330/5 "2022-12-03T14:38:26Z")

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> [@Atom](#):
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> What if I import/detect my own progression, or load a user preset

I don’t think there is an “easy” (i.e. one button) way to do this for recorded/detected progressions but it does work for progressions that have been saved as a User Chord Set.

I have drafted a [tutorial](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/change-scale-on-recorded-and-detected-patterns/12424) showing how the limitation on recorded/detected progressions can be overcome bu = saving the progressions as a User Chord Set and reimporting it into Scaler. Not ideal but…

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 5:33am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/quick-and-easy-way-to-change-the-key-mode-of-presets-patterns-see-example/12330/6 "2022-12-04T05:33:29Z")

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Thanks, I appreciate the tip.  
I’ve always just saved full sessions, but will start saving chord sets so at least there’s some chord lock functionality.
