# Polyrithmic **URL:** \ **Category:** Scaler 2 Feature Requests\ **Created:** [September 18, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204 "2021-09-18T10:43:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KCFYX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85e7bf/32.png) [@KCFYX](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/KCFYX)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/1 "2021-09-18T10:43:28Z")
I’d love to see options to configure easily a polyrithmic melody line in a second instance, based on a first melody. So inherit another time signature on top of the first melody. ---
**Author:** ![RandomS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/randoms/32/127_2.png) [@RandomS](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/RandomS)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/2 "2021-09-18T16:41:52Z")
It’s funny you bring that up - I was just thinking about polyrhythms, specifically Euclidean rhythms. I wonder if there is a way to take the chords output by Scaler and have each note of the chord generate a different Euclidean rhythm? I guess it would be a sort of Euclidean arpeggiator. Does such a thing exist? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/3 "2021-09-18T19:58:01Z")
> **[HATEFISh RhyGenerator](https://www.hornetplugins.com/plugins/hatefish-rhygenerator/)** > > RhyGenerator creates euclidean rhythm patterns in a matter of few seconds, up to 16 different sequencers are available that can work in 5 different modes This is good. On offer at moment for €6. ---
**Author:** ![KCFYX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85e7bf/32.png) [@KCFYX](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/KCFYX)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:47am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/4 "2021-09-19T10:47:40Z")
Got this one, not an easy or flexible tool at all ---
**Author:** ![KCFYX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85e7bf/32.png) [@KCFYX](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/KCFYX)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/5 "2021-09-19T10:50:00Z")
Got a nice plugin in Ableton for those. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/3/3bcd8452eb4fe6651250f18612df3917b015ffb5.jpeg "Euclidean sequencer PRO (Ableton Live & Max for Live)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzjojiwfzYw) But there is also one called HY-RPE. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/d/d3dc8974b14d2d6189b15c1559e202b4c88041bb.jpeg "RPE2 EuclidSeq Quick Start") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DdxeFXCVvk) ---
**Author:** ![KCFYX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85e7bf/32.png) [@KCFYX](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/KCFYX)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/6 "2021-09-19T10:52:10Z")
But I’d like more to see a function like this one in OPS [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRncPeaDCng) ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/7 "2021-09-19T12:50:25Z")
RPE is nice, but doesn’t accept incoming midi, ie a chord. ---
**Author:** ![RandomS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/randoms/32/127_2.png) [@RandomS](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/RandomS)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/8 "2021-09-19T14:58:45Z")
I have HATEFISh, it’s very simple and good for some things. But it can’t take an incoming chord and split the notes across its rhythm “lanes” so each note plays at a different rhythm. > [@Ben](#): > > RPE is nice, but doesn’t accept incoming midi, ie a chord. Yeah, maybe I’m missing something, but I can’t get HY-RPE2 to use “live” incoming chords from Scaler to drive the playback. @KCFYX, since you mentioned it, do you know of a way to do this? ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/9 "2021-09-19T15:19:13Z")
The setup I use, have RPE output C Maj scale to Scaler from C3 onwards, and have Scaler adjust output to notes from chord. ---
**Author:** ![Bernd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/bernd/32/1320_2.png) [@Bernd](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Bernd)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/10 "2021-09-20T03:15:59Z")
Scaler actually comes out of the box with a couple of different time signatures, all you have to do is overlap them across multiple tracks, each with a differently configured Scaler instance… ![image](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/images/transparent.png) ![image](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/images/transparent.png) Alternatively, you can play with the “Humanize” menu options, such as “Swing”… ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/1/128c3d8d7cbab2a9e5c9b4677d7e79208ab992e8.jpeg) or “Quantize”… ![image](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/images/transparent.png) ---
**Author:** ![KCFYX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85e7bf/32.png) [@KCFYX](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/KCFYX)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/11 "2021-09-20T03:35:40Z")
Not actually give you lot of freedom selecting any time signature you want to use on top of a 4/4 or other time signature sequence like typing in manually a 9/16 or 7/11. ---
**Author:** ![KCFYX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85e7bf/32.png) [@KCFYX](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/KCFYX)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/12 "2021-09-20T03:36:27Z")
Not sure, would need to check and experiment… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bernd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/bernd/32/1320_2.png) [@Bernd](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Bernd)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 4:01am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/13 "2021-09-20T04:01:58Z")
Likely that Scaler doesn’t address every musical case for polyrhythms. As a fellow polyrhythm afficionado, I was quite pleased with what came out of the box already. For the more nuanced requirements I have my complementary tool set (Reaktor, Falcon, and various iOS based MIDI Sequencers with flexible timing). From a percussion standpoint, I’ve had some interesting proofs of concept… [Try out Scaler for percussion! - General Discussion - Scaler Plugin - Community Forum](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/try-out-scaler-for-percussion/6688) [What hidden (or not so hidden) Scaler features did you wish you knew about earlier? - General Discussion - Scaler Plugin - Community Forum](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/what-hidden-or-not-so-hidden-scaler-features-did-you-wish-you-knew-about-earlier/6987/4) ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 7:01am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/14 "2021-09-20T07:01:36Z")
I’m waiting for this… > **[Midinous: Non-linear Sequencer](https://www.midinous.com/)** > > Midinous is a non-linear MIDI sequencer allowing users to create expansive looping complex sequences which don’t subscribe to a definite timeline. Meter is determined only by a user’s imagination. Midinous can, however, still send MIDI clock messages... ---
**Author:** ![RandomS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/randoms/32/127_2.png) [@RandomS](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/RandomS)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/15 "2021-09-20T14:27:26Z")
> [@Ben](#): > > The setup I use, have RPE output C Maj scale to Scaler from C3 onwards, and have Scaler adjust output to notes from chord. Thanks, this is a great tip! I was thinking about it backwards, trying to send Scaler into RPE. Sending RPE into Scaler as you suggest works perfectly. I just needed to use Chord Mute: ![image](https://forum.scalermusic.com/images/transparent.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/16 "2021-09-28T19:36:58Z")
Just for anyone wondering, Midinous is excellent. Great fun. ---
**Author:** ![jedwardo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@jedwardo](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jedwardo)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/polyrithmic/8204/17 "2024-03-25T12:19:51Z")
Late to the conversation here, looks like fun, reminds me of Nodal. [https://nodalmusic.com/](https://nodalmusic.com/)