# Orchestral Set-up -- Use Sync **URL:** \ **Category:** Scaler 2 General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 7, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392 "2020-11-07T14:26:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LivingEdge\_Studios](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/livingedge_studios/32/1683_2.png) [@LivingEdge\_Studios](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/LivingEdge_Studios)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/1 "2020-11-07T14:26:46Z")
I’m excited to see the upcoming version of Scaler being released on “black” Friday. Unfortunately in the USA in the big cities there are some darker days ahead soon – but I’m not going there. Scaler is already SUPER easy to use for music generation… styled arps, melodies, bass lines with bass-in-chords, modulations, circle - of - fifths, one finger chords and melodies (no wrong notes), and “soon” this list will be even longer. For those who are new to Scaler… put Scaler on a track and use it to generate chords. Then put multiple Scalers on other tracks. On each of these tracks turn off Scaler’s internal sound and put your instrument of choice after Scaler, or set the track to send midi out to your hardware. As you make changes to your chords and bind them your song will begin to form. I have tried routing the chord track output to multiple tracks and it does work, however, it seems to be much more computer intensive. I have found that using Scaler’s Sync function is the “best” option. It also makes sense that when you get everything working and wired the way you want that you should save a template of your set-up. As to what instruments can be used… any midi driven instruments or sounds you want, or even external. For those who would like to know, I really like Windows 7 and not buying Windows 10 is saving me a lot of money… tons. Not that I am cheap, I just like Windows 7 and I have a working system. I current am running 7 midi ports of 16 instruments each with a small number of extra sounds (and I really like the “felt” piano ;). I run 2x ports Genos 1: & 2: (S.Art2!), FA-08 3: (Supernatural Sounds), TritonLE :4, WK-3700 :5, Axon MkII :6, and JV-1010. That and the VSTs gives me a 120 piece orchestra with low latency – not that it even matters. If you have a somewhat strong computer you might find the “sole” VST route is the way to go. I have found that mixing the different makes: Roland, Korg, Yamaha, and Casio gives a much better “real” sounding orchestra than any one make alone. I hope this helps someone. ---
**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/2 "2020-11-07T20:12:15Z")
Yes I too usually have a sketch scaler and then a bunch of scalers that will sync together to trigger my virtual instruments and libraries. It also is quite unique at triggering my analogue synths with its triplet feel expressions. ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/3 "2020-11-08T21:58:32Z")
I use multiple Scalers all the time. Doing different things, some chords, some phrases, etc. I find it odd in your setup that one Scaler causes more CPU use then multiple Scalers. Routing MIDI to different tracks should not use any more CPU then the One Scaler and whatever instruments you put on the routed tracks. In any event, have fun with the experiments. ---
**Author:** ![LivingEdge\_Studios](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/livingedge_studios/32/1683_2.png) [@LivingEdge\_Studios](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/LivingEdge_Studios)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/4 "2020-11-08T22:07:38Z")
> [@jamieh](#): > > I find it odd in your setup that one Scaler causes more CPU use than multiple Scalers. Yes, I found that to be odd too, but that’s from my experience – whodathunkit?! But syncing the master Scaler to all others makes the track independent of each other and seems to work much better (again from experience). ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/5 "2020-11-09T20:04:51Z")
I find multiScalers absolutely a necessity. Each instrument I want doing different things. I wish Scaler has a more interesting Arp but there are external ones out there. Scaler just gets better and better! ---
**Author:** ![Rodger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@Rodger](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Rodger)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/6 "2020-11-14T03:28:02Z")
can you or anyone else share what the new features are in the new version. Is your excessive CPU usage a result from not having enough ram…does Scaler 2 make use of multi core? More and more VSt’s are making use multi core processors. I’m looking for more videos on the way people use Scaler in their original song production workflows-- I only see Davide’s videos. It would really be great to see more producers showing their workflows since there are so many ways people are using Scaler in their workflows. ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/7 "2020-11-14T08:02:30Z")
There are a few of these that can be quite interesting… [Scaler and The Orchestra 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPWrR0yWbMk) [Scaler and Ork 2 and Indie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yl7wq0gWdI) [Scaler and Emotional Strings](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt_QqJFrBAw&t=43s) ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/8 "2020-11-19T23:57:17Z")
while if you like paper, ink and quill (like me 😂) here is a [wonderful guide](https://www.cantabilesoftware.com/glitchfree/) stuffed with tips to improve audio performances my 2 cents ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/9 "2020-11-23T17:18:59Z")
and, do you know a video about Scaler controlling BBC Symphony Orchestra Discover? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/10 "2020-11-23T19:37:42Z")
The Emotional strings might be the closest. ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/11 "2020-11-23T23:14:39Z")
thanks, I looked the video… then I bought the plugin 😃 it’s bombastic and has an incredible small footprint I did [this simple test](https://soundcloud.com/user-658469515/hypnosys/s-8qvqUFEbZjc) in the classical style and I found that 3 Scaler and 5 BBC instances suck just 900 MB 😲 ---
**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/12 "2020-11-24T05:57:48Z")
Pretty good. Now work on the dynamic levels. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/13 "2020-11-24T10:21:47Z")
> [@jamieh](#): > > Pretty good Pretty good? LOL you are too polite this is a crap where even the fool brother of Leonard Bernstein would never be the conductor 😂 I did this test only to understand what Scaler expressions, phrases etc are suitable, if any, for the various instruments, and I think that most aren’t, likely because Scaler was firstly developed for keyboards moreover, my testing was stopped by the “hanging note” bug that I hope will be fixed in the next release ---
**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/14 "2020-11-24T21:05:21Z")
> [@ClaudioPorcellana](#): > > moreover, my testing was stopped by the “hanging note” bug that I hope will be fixed in the next release We do too! Planning on this happening and we’ve decided to push 2.2 out to December 10th after Black Friday sales to give it the attention it deserves and solve this bug! ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/15 "2020-11-24T21:29:19Z")
OK, fine I can hardly wait to have it fixed, so being able to use patterns with my BBC toy 😀 ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/16 "2020-11-24T21:33:27Z")
> [@jamieh](#): > > Arp but there are external ones out there for example? I tried a couple of them, Nora and another whose name I forgot, but I always found their arpeggios too in the “robot-style” ---
**Author:** ![Miki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/miki/32/572_2.png) [@Miki](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Miki)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/17 "2020-11-24T21:49:03Z")
> [@ClaudioPorcellana](#): > > I can hardly wait to have it fixed, so being able to use patterns with my BBC toy Winning combination Scaler + BBCO BTW, @ClaudioPorcellana, did you try some of Spitfire LABS free instruments? I have a couple of them. Very interesting and really good quality. ---
**Author:** ![LivingEdge\_Studios](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/livingedge_studios/32/1683_2.png) [@LivingEdge\_Studios](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/LivingEdge_Studios)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/18 "2020-11-24T22:01:06Z")
The BBC Orchestra is a good option. And there are many, many arps available, even arps for free like BlueArp… I now have many, many arps from PluginBoutique. I don’t really have any favorites. … Note: There are also over [_ **25 skins** _](http://graywolf2004.net/wp/?page_id=94) available for BlueArp for starters, and you can create your own. ---
**Author:** ![LivingEdge\_Studios](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/livingedge_studios/32/1683_2.png) [@LivingEdge\_Studios](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/LivingEdge_Studios)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/orchestral-set-up-use-sync/5392/19 "2020-11-24T22:03:17Z")
> [@davide](#): > > We’ve decided to push 2.2 out to December 10th after Black Friday sales to give it the attention it deserves. It is to be expected, as I know that this isn’t just any ordinary update.