# How close are we to Scaler 3?

**URL:** <https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297>\
**Category:** Scaler 2 General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 28, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297 "2023-12-28T16:50:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 7:45am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/21 "2024-01-06T07:45:51Z")

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> [@jamieh](#):
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> user account on Plug-in Alliance

Freudian slip? @jpCouleeCity Jamieh means in your user account at plugin boutique

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**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/22 "2024-01-06T15:45:40Z")

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Plug-in Boutique yes! Ha! Brain fog. I was a bit tired and I often mix those up when I first start typing.

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**Author:** ![Alex\_D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@Alex\_D](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Alex_D)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 9:04am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/23 "2024-01-08T09:04:47Z")

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Any chance to sometimes will see 3/4 signature in Scaler? Will be great to have more flexibility in this great plugin

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**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/24 "2024-01-08T15:48:57Z")

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There are multiple time signatures under Phrases and Performances and you can set variation in Edit Mode or Preferences. Setting Global beats of 3, 6, 9, 12 etc or 5, 7, 10, etc you can get any time sig you want.

 ![Screen Shot 2024-01-08 at 7.43.25 AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/7/7162bf0600b48ed2bd0e6d39091aab1a1a73c0b1.png)

But I will agree most people are used to seeing it as x/4, x/8 etc. so maybe that could be looked at. As a film composer I often need to have variations and manage to do it. Under Edit I can change each chord as well although it’s tricky to count it out if you aren’t used to it.

 ![Screen Shot 2024-01-08 at 7.47.34 AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/e/e425c5d231732f604212d16c049f80f960db687d.png)

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**Author:** ![fossile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/fossile/32/5572_2.png) [@fossile](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/fossile)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/25 "2024-01-08T19:12:46Z")

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yeah, the challenge is you have “# of beats per chord”, i.e. one chord will be X # of beats. so creating 6/8 time, you need to calculate the # of eighth notes (6) over X number of beats per chord. 🙂

then you use edit to modify each as a partial number of beats and thus the math gets tricky - in the case of the compound 6/8 if you wanted a chord per 8 beats, each would be 1.33 and so on.

you’d almost want some thing like music notation and/or total chord duration calculated so you’d know when your “measure” was full…

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**Author:** ![Alex\_D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@Alex\_D](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Alex_D)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/26 "2024-01-09T19:00:08Z")

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Thanks! Will try that way.

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**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/27 "2024-01-10T15:01:55Z")

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Yes to all of this and don’t forget there is also the triplet quantisations which work well for any time signature and is global.

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**Author:** ![jamieh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/jamieh/32/1139_2.png) [@jamieh](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/jamieh)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/28 "2024-01-10T15:44:02Z")

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I realize I could have explained this better. It should have its own thread.

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**Author:** ![SpaceHarp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/spaceharp/32/11724_2.png) [@SpaceHarp](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/SpaceHarp)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/29 "2024-04-04T13:20:44Z")

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I am hopeful for Host Automation for Scaler to be implemented for Ableton Live 12. If not forthcoming, I will have to implement MIDI workarounds to translate MIDI into keystrokes/mouse actions using the likes of Bomes MIDI Translator, for example. With MIDI host automation, live performers will have incredible control.

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**Author:** ![Richard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Richard](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Richard)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/30 "2024-04-10T18:43:20Z")

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Yes please. Hi contrast text!

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**Author:** ![SpaceHarp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/spaceharp/32/11724_2.png) [@SpaceHarp](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/SpaceHarp)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/31 "2024-05-12T14:22:42Z")

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I sure hope the updates include any kinds of host and MIDI automation. There are so many parameters that are desireble to control separately from the UI namely by MIDI remote controllers and host automation.  
Also an AU version that can support external soft instruments like VST can.

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**Author:** ![kottke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@kottke](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/kottke)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/32 "2024-09-10T22:16:20Z")

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I wanted to revisit this thread since we are nearing Q4 of 2024. Are we still expecting Scaler 3 this year?

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**Author:** ![AlexTheCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@AlexTheCat](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/AlexTheCat)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/33 "2024-09-10T22:35:10Z")

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Yes , i thonk someone posted about this . Late 2024

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**Author:** ![Rosko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/34f0e0/32.png) [@Rosko](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Rosko)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/34 "2024-09-16T20:46:41Z")

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I would be at least expecting some beta moves by this point if its released this year.

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**Author:** ![AlexTheCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@AlexTheCat](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/AlexTheCat)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/35 "2024-09-18T00:57:02Z")

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Scaler is already a fantastic piece of software , so inspiring. Whenever it gets updated Im sure its gonna blow everyones mind .

Got totally lost tonight with Scaler and U-he Diva . Amazing

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**Author:** ![davide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/davide/32/824_2.png) [@davide](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/davide)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/36 "2024-09-19T01:30:15Z")

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> [@AlexTheCat](#):
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> Whenever it gets updated Im sure its gonna blow everyones mind .

Mine is already blown. I am just so impatient as I just want to use it as a writer and not develop it as a creator! Hoping to share some news very soon. Challenges are there but the weekly rewards coming in are… mind blowing.

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**Author:** ![loweartist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/67e7ee/32.png) [@loweartist](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/loweartist)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/37 "2024-09-21T20:52:58Z")

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So excited. Checking in periodically for this, so it’s nice to hear a little news. 😍

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**Author:** ![kottke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@kottke](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/kottke)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/38 "2024-09-24T21:43:20Z")

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Thanks for chiming in @davide! I can’t wait!

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**Author:** ![MusicStudent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@MusicStudent](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/MusicStudent)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/39 "2024-09-26T19:41:47Z")

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Kontakt V8 has a new tool - chords which looks a bit like Scaler. Would love to see Scaler 3 sooner rather than later…

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**Author:** ![Vst3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ecd19e/32.png) [@Vst3](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Vst3)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/how-close-are-we-to-scaler-3/15297/40 "2024-10-06T20:39:35Z")

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Yeah but you can’t play chords with one hand and melody with other in K8.  
Any news on Scaler 3 release date? XD

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