# Built in progressions suitable for BBC SO Strings (5 instrument) via DIVISIMATE **URL:** \ **Category:** Scaler 2 General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 28, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274 "2021-01-28T19:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nonchai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/nonchai/32/1892_2.png) [@nonchai](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/nonchai)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/1 "2021-01-28T19:00:16Z")
Just wondering if there are any here using DIVISIMATE with this SCALER in conjunction with a non-ensemble (ie monophonic parts ) string section library like BBC SO that works Ive got DIVISIMATE and SCALER working nicely together now in Ableton using DIVISIMATE loopback and am just exploring the built in chord progressions along with performance options. But given real string sections have hard-wired note ranges - when using a DIVIDI tool like DIVISIMATE to split a 5 part chord into separate lines - what are the best options? ( I’m already playing around with octave transposition tools in DIVISIMATE - for example for the basses but any tips to make things easier or better sounding would be appreciated. ) I’d love to see the SCALER team get together with DIVISIMATE and have them come up with some patterns and progressions and SCALER/DIVISIMATE settings optimised for libraries such as my BBC Symphony Orchetra string section . ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/2 "2021-01-28T21:18:26Z")
It would be amazing I have the BBC Discovery and I love that sounds, but using them together is so complex that I give up each time I try ---
**Author:** ![nonchai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/nonchai/32/1892_2.png) [@nonchai](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/nonchai)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/3 "2021-01-28T21:20:33Z")
any resulting progressions would - of course also be applicable for ANY string section library with mono instruments - since the note-ranges for violins, violas, basses etc apply universally 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/4 "2021-01-28T21:27:54Z")
As I can see, in BBC Discovery each instrument uses a different part of the keyboard, not the whole space Add to this that my keyboard is 49 keys only, so I have to bend over backwards to tickle ivories in all those small different parts Moreover, my PC struggles with more than 4 Scaler and 4 BBC instruments Add to the sum that I hate classical music… 😆 I only love the sound of classical instruments (the reason why I acquired BBC), and I am clearly tempted to try an “ensemble” but it is too much hassle now ---
**Author:** ![nonchai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/nonchai/32/1892_2.png) [@nonchai](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/nonchai)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/5 "2021-01-28T21:33:29Z")
Yes you’re right. Each instrument ( at least in the full BBC SO ) reflects the ACTUAL range of notes for each string instrument. There is actually a lot of overlap though between instruments - just to complicate matters!. I have a load of PAD presets loaded from Synthogy Ivory which help to sketch out ideas. But would like to force myself to very narrow choices and learn how to orchestrate etc… \ LOL Orchestras clearly are for more than just classical 🙂 Hear you about PC CPU consumption ( Have the full library and hate the fan noise which only kicks in when using BBC ) I put in a request to SPITFIRE some time back ro add ensemble patches to the BBCSO library. Having said that for me I feel its good for me to get used to learning how to score for each part - but at least DIVISIMATE gives me a vehicle to try out stuff on the keys. ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/6 "2021-01-28T21:42:32Z")
> [@nonchai](#): > > Orchestras clearly are for more than just classical well, indeed violins are good for other stuff, hip-hop for example 🤣 well not exactly LOL nevertheless, I composed with Scaler a [flamenco guitar riff](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/scaler-es-bueno-por-el-flamenco/5776) and I used a hip-hop pattern 😲 And I found that hip-hop patterns are quite good for rock and metal guitar riffs and clearly classical expressions can be wonderful to feed a Hammond in rock music ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/7 "2021-01-28T21:46:56Z")
Other BBC instruments that I will possibly use are brasses, and some free plugin is interesting but my preferred preset for Max Fun and Zero Hassle is: 1 Scaler driving AAS Strum-GS in the loop mode 1 Scaler (with same chords, but different expression) driving a keyboard Broomstick Bass (with its drums metronome) fed by AAS Strum-GS ---
**Author:** ![don1thedon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@don1thedon](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/don1thedon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/8 "2021-01-29T21:17:33Z")
> [@ClaudioPorcellana](#): > > BBC Discovery a You might want to check out Plugin Gurus Unify. Really great for combining multiple instruments & multiple versions of instruments (e.g. Spitfire BBC SO) along with other functionality [https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/](https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/) They’ve just released a library that has just been demo’ed on YT that features BBC SO. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAoaC8DYH8E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAoaC8DYH8E) Hoping it’s OK to post about other devs here mods. ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/9 "2021-01-29T22:30:34Z")
Thanks for information @don1thedon I’ll do a look and let you know if I acquire it hoping it is not so much complex, because to much complexity kills fun to me 😆 ---
**Author:** ![LivingEdge\_Studios](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/livingedge_studios/32/1683_2.png) [@LivingEdge\_Studios](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/LivingEdge_Studios)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/10 "2021-02-01T21:49:42Z")
Well perhaps… one can only wonder. Not a piano player and without Scaler: [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/uploads/scalermusic/original/2X/0/0b80a4ee66e2ee4a67edea1e9925f689b45dd209.jpeg "Jordan Rudess plays Unify + DiscoverStation for the 1st Time (WOW!)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB8BTvTH9YA) Surely, this guy can play… but, if you aren’t a piano/keyboard player, then with Scaler on your side you can do what would normally take years. Sorry, I don’t have a video, and I only have the BBC Freebie. So no video. But it’s the thought that counts, or so I have heard. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![ClaudioPorcellana](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/claudioporcellana/32/14242_2.png) [@ClaudioPorcellana](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/ClaudioPorcellana)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/11 "2021-02-01T22:07:11Z")
Cool! I doubt I can do that with Scaler anyway, even after a dozen of years ---
**Author:** ![eakwarren](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/eakwarren/32/1805_2.png) [@eakwarren](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/eakwarren)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/12 "2021-02-02T21:15:18Z")
See my post [here](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/midi-channels-in-logic/3041/9) about using ImageLine’s Minihost Modular with Scaler → Divisimate → DAW, and [my post re: BBCSO ensemble patches at VI-C](https://vi-control.net/community/threads/bbcso-ensemble-patches-in-logic.105157/#post-4755424). ---
**Author:** ![eakwarren](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/eakwarren/32/1805_2.png) [@eakwarren](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/eakwarren)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/13 "2021-02-03T17:14:26Z")
> [@nonchai](#): > > patterns and progressions … optimised for libraries such as my BBC Symphony Orchetra string section Have you looked at [PluginGuru’s Unify v1.3 and Core Station](https://www.pluginguru.com)? Also, slightly different topic, but I’ve put together [BBCSO Core UACC-based patches](https://vi-control.net/community/threads/bbcso-core-uacc-logic-articulations-and-single-instrument-patches.102752/) and [156 Divisimate presets](https://vi-control.net/community/threads/divisimate-presets.96250/) that may be useful. ---
**Author:** ![Yervil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yervil](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Yervil)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/14 "2021-02-03T21:29:37Z")
On my side, I have tried Plugin Guru’s Unify and Core Station. Quite amazing indeed. Only downside: how to change articulation inside one same instance of Unify with many different BBC Core layers inside? Concerning your BBCSO Core UACC-based patches and 156 Divisimate presets: are you willing to share them one way or another? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eakwarren](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/eakwarren/32/1805_2.png) [@eakwarren](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/eakwarren)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/15 "2021-02-03T23:59:03Z")
Yes. They’re freely available. ---
**Author:** ![Yervil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yervil](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Yervil)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/16 "2021-02-04T08:56:14Z")
Shame on me! I didn’t click on the links above. Thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![nonchai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/nonchai/32/1892_2.png) [@nonchai](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/nonchai)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/17 "2021-02-04T14:19:36Z")
wow just a cursory look at your post on VI-C tells me I need to look at this! " so I created [156 presets for Divisimate](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bluR5KUyXVdj0tKhlGgbtb5w4itUgAMM/view?usp=sharing) based on the [Professional Orchestration](https://www.alexanderpublishing.com/Departments/Professional-Orchestration.aspx) series of books. I’ve also started making presets based on scores I’ve studied. For example, here’s [19 Mendelssohn - Fingal’s Cave Op.26 Presets](https://drive.google.com/file/d/14vAanoWzYgSRd_qkCfE18XGrUfKXuA4l/view?usp=sharing)." ---
**Author:** ![inz1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e95f7d/32.png) [@inz1](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/inz1)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/18 "2021-04-03T04:32:50Z")
When using Divisimate and other chord splitting methods in Live I always put Live’s pitch device in front of each instrument so I can easily dial in and change the note range for each voice. ---
**Author:** ![RBIngraham](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex012/user_avatar/forum.scalermusic.com/rbingraham/32/2645_2.png) [@RBIngraham](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/RBIngraham)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/19 "2021-07-25T01:31:59Z")
I just got Divisimate, but it certainly can work with Scaler and you don’t need to run a 3rd party host for Scaler in front of your DAW to make it work. Or at least not with the current version of Divisimate and Scaler within Cubase on my Windows computer. It take a bit of set up but there is a MIDIloopback for Divisimate, that comes right from them when you install the application. This allows MIDI data from your DAW to be sent out to Divisimate, processed and then returned to your DAW as multiple MIDI ports. The combination of Scaler and Divisimate is pretty powerful just in the couple of hours of tinkering around I’ve done so far. It really is the tool that can take Scaler’s understanding of chord theory and split it those notes up across multiple instrument tracks as most composers working in orchestral style music would need. ---
**Author:** ![Slharder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Slharder](https://forum.scalermusic.com/u/Slharder)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274/20 "2021-07-25T15:02:35Z")
Here’s a discussion of free vst to split chord notes into individual tracks in real-time. Fwiw. > [@Try adding Midipolyphony vst to your Scaler workflow](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/try-adding-midipolyphony-vst-to-your-scaler-workflow/7728): > > I searched seeking a means of splitting sequences of chords into separate tracks, but I didn’t find a solution that didn’t involve a lot of copy/paste/highlight/delete. I wanted to take a chord progression I liked and split it up to be sent to individual instruments, and get it done efficiently, and in real time if I was just noodling around. Midipolyphony.dll is a 64 bit vst created in 2011 and then eventually forgotten about. Insert Scaler as an instrument, then insert Midipolyphony as an … [Next page](https://forum.scalermusic.com/t/built-in-progressions-suitable-for-bbc-so-strings-5-instrument-via-divisimate/6274.md?page=2)